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I’d kill for an older Bronco, but they’re untouchable. Way too much money, even for basket cases. I wound up buying a new Bronco. My LTR 450 is an 08 too!
We had over 200 broncos in Florence a week ago..most were gen1's but they have opened it up to all years.
Northwest Bronco Round up.

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I get your stance Johnny.

Two points.
1. Around here and in Glamis 99 percent is a pipe dream. Look at the hill after a big holiday. It looks like the trails the illegals use to get here, a GARBAGE DUMP . We have now gotten away from traditional off roaders with the explosion of new SXS owners that have ZERO etiquette! Ever heard " IT'S GLAMIS BRO!"?

2. We can stand up and protest or vote For whoever and for whatever and we have lost time and time again. You see what we have now and think its going away if I don't fight, the reality is we have LOST more than we have now we just didn't see how it was prior to us being adults. Look at income tax and taxes in general. Read up on how the income tax was presented and see what it has become. We are taxed at MORE than 50 percent of what we earn by various taxes and "fees" levied on US, the working class folks. That scenario plays out a thousand times in various areas.

My point is resisting is not working, its delusional (with all due respect)to think we can stop it.



Respectfully
Tim
Your first point is spot on for the Eastern half of the country as well.
 
Listen friend I mean no disrespect to you at all, this is not a personal attack nor do I wish to belittle or demean you in the least.

Yes you are conditioning yourself and even conditioning others reading to just “accept the inevitable” or see the “writing on the wall”.
You are referring to the false narrative that we are all one and that we should just accept the notion we need to be ready to accept the restrictions on our personal freedoms because someone somewhere is going to do stupid things.
It’s like Obama continually saying “that’s not who we are”!
That way of thinking is the key to breaking down and taking away liberty.
The anti-gun arguments are framed exactly the same way.

Yes there are “stupid“ people. They are the exception rather than the norm.
My experience in off roading of all types is that 99.9% of the people are great and would do anything to help their fellow off-roaders. How many people you have never met will loan you tools, stop their own ride, go get you parts or even flat out give you parts to help in distress?
The problem is that the number of stupid people are breeding and increasing. No disrespect, but you are putting your head in the sand and just pretending the problem doesn't exist. I'm not accepting anything, but I am actually watching what's happening to our country, as well as our sport. Sadly, it's not you or me that will be the downfall, as we will indeed fight. But how easily did the majority give up their rights and liberties over COVID? The problem is the ever increasing numbers of stupid people who have no common sense, no respect for our land, and no business being behind the wheel of a 240hp 100mph car. Period. While your numbers above (99% good people) may have been correct in the past, it is changing rapidly, and not for the better. See Tim's post above.
 
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We had over 200 broncos in Florence a week ago..most were gen1's but they have opened it up to all years.
Northwest Bronco Round up.

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That looks like a blast.
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Pulled the trigger on a black maverick r xr s with sport shocks the essentials package got for msrp plus $1500 for freight, assembly, whatever other fee’s they have. Have bought from them before so went to my sales guy and said you know what I want. And he looked confused like I could see in his head does he want a pro r ? And was then like the new new maverick R and I’m like really of course and I’m not paying these crazy ass idiot fees you know me I sit here and complain till it’s not worth having me in the dealership loudly complaining about how I spend 50k in service on each car but I end up buying them from another dealer that gives me either no fees or a huge discount. And for him to drop it to 1500 like instantly and I guess being an ordered car not one they bought. Because I think a lot of people are going to want this yellow and black one. And dealers ordered those. And they had a lot of stock from pro r’s to x3 max x rs turbo rr sport shocks like multi of all the cars pretty much even the crazy Polaris weird 6 seater looking thing. I did the deal in 2 min literally. Oct delivery said first couple weeks. So we’ll see. Also talked to someone at zrp I know and they are getting me and I paid for black zrp/Apex rims and 35in bfg’s. Will leave it like this for now. Not sure what else I could do. But the videos really sold it and the zrp rims and 35’s and dj’s front tire land video and across the water shocked me something didn’t explode on impact blew me away.

will post pics when I have it in hand.
 
Listen friend I mean no disrespect to you at all, this is not a personal attack nor do I wish to belittle or demean you in the least.

Yes you are conditioning yourself and even conditioning others reading to just “accept the inevitable” or see the “writing on the wall”.
You are referring to the false narrative that we are all one and that we should just accept the notion we need to be ready to accept the restrictions on our personal freedoms because someone somewhere is going to do stupid things.
It’s like Obama continually saying “that’s not who we are”!
That way of thinking is the key to breaking down and taking away liberty.
The anti-gun arguments are framed exactly the same way.

Yes there are “stupid“ people. They are the exception rather than the norm.
My experience in off roading of all types is that 99.9% of the people are great and would do anything to help their fellow off-roaders. How many people you have never met will loan you tools, stop their own ride, go get you parts or even flat out give you parts to help in distress?
I agree with most of what you are saying but things are different now. Governments are increasingly looking to restrict people’s rights in so many areas, often completely unwarranted. I would say it’s mostly on one side of the political spectrum but the other side is also doing it just in different areas. Real freedom is rapidly disappearing all over the world and it’s pretty alarming. I’m not sure even voting for the “right” person is even possible anymore.
reality is we vote for the side that isn’t playing politics with the Ukraine situation. Amazing how the side that loves to go to war changes their mind on this because the other side is for getting to a resolution as it needs to as nato country’s are right there. And no one is looking for ww3 here. I am 2nd generation Ukrainian American and I’ll tell you know one way or the other the borders will be restored. We can try and work it out. Or we go the completely foolish way of abandoning Ukraine like the big orange wig wearing freak wants to do and my country is erased and then they step foot in Poland and we are obligated to send all of the military over there and we get WW3. If you agree with just handing Russia parts of Ukraine the. You should have no issue of Mexico taking all of Arizona and let’s say California up to glamis.

seems we all forget exactly how ww2 started and the wording of why to invade Austria by Hitler. “ German speaking citizen's of Austria were being persecuted by Austrians. Wait why did Russia say they entered Donbas and Lugansk regions of Ukraine ? Because Ukrainian speaking Ukrainians were being persecuted by Ukrainian speakers. Well real interesting that everyone in ukraine speaks Russian maybe 20% speak Ukrainian. I lived in the donbas region for all of 2017. I can speak Russian not Ukrainian. If I could only speak Ukrainian I would have had to have my girlfriend translate everything. This is all BS and now let’s look back at if we would have joined ww2 once everything went sideways. Hitler would have been shut down and the event of ww2 would have been minimal.

I own more guns than anyone on this site I hunt wolfs Oct thru april. So any of you want to think liberal about me you’re wrong. Everyone should be smart enough to vote for the person trying to not have thing escalate further. Not an orange soda can wearing a wig who … did an amazing job in North Korea lol. And only wants the win for the notch on his belt. And if he thinks he will just give away the territory Russia is in now to stop this. That’s going to be pretty funny seeing as 33 million people have had their country ripped apart and have nothing to go back to. Don’t ever want to be in a fight with someone who has nothing to loose and what they did have they have already lost it.

not to worry the orange fat wig wearing disaster literally can’t win the election. You think it was stolen from you before. Well if that’s true which it isn’t. You think they wouldn’t do 2x more this time?
 
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