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I would be curious to see what the actual voltage output is at idle before the regulator.
Then see what the voltage output is at 3k, 5k, 8k. Just to see what it is putting out and regulated down to. I'm assuming the factory regulator is pmw (pulse width modulation). A pmw system basically doesn't use excess power. The voltage climbs up to say 50 volts at 8k rpm. The regulator only uses 14 volts.

A person could in theory design a system that would use a mppt (max power point tracking) system for regulation.
A mppt system would increase amperage output when the stator is producing excess voltage at higher rpms. The only limiting factor would be the size of the winding wire in the stator.

I haven't read a lot on mppt, so my understanding of that technology is very limited. If any of this is wrong, I don't mind be corrected. I'm not by my buggy right now. Otherwise I would try checking voltages for myself.
 

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I would be curious to see what the actual voltage output is at idle before the regulator.
Then see what the voltage output is at 3k, 5k, 8k. Just to see what it is putting out and regulated down to. I'm assuming the factory regulator is pmw (pulse width modulation). A pmw system basically doesn't use excess power. The voltage climbs up to say 50 volts at 8k rpm. The regulator only uses 14 volts.

A person could in theory design a system that would use a mppt (max power point tracking) system for regulation.
A mppt system would increase amperage output when the stator is producing excess voltage at higher rpms. The only limiting factor would be the size of the winding wire in the stator.

I haven't read a lot on mppt, so my understanding of that technology is very limited. If any of this is wrong, I don't mind be corrected. I'm not by my buggy right now. Otherwise I would try checking voltages for myself.
From my understanding the stator has a maximum output of 42 amps before regulated? I may be incorrect.
 

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More than likely the amperage output is regulated to "X" amount, due to wire size in the stator. Increasing the wire size in the stator would be the way to go, given that you end up with the same amount turns in your windings.

My initial thought with mppt was using excess voltage a high rpm to take advantage of it. After thinking about it, if it produces 625 watts at 6k the battle may not be worth it.

I'm game to bounce ideas around. I've never had the stock stator assembly apart. Don't know if there is enough room for a physically larger (thicker) stator ? If there was, it surely someone would have figured it out.

I apologize for the long winded posts. Sometimes I suffer from Dunning and Kruger and believe I am smarter than I think I am.
 

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I have seen people installing the 850w stator kit into the older models as an option.


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I have seen people installing the 850w stator kit into the older models as an option.


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With that kit do you have to have new ecu? If so I would assume you would have to flash and pay for new ecu to to flashed if previously tuned?


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I'm thinking the ECU has nothing to do with the charging unless it quits working and shuts down on low or high voltage. The charging system use's a separate Voltage regulator. If you do manage to install a higher amperage Stator, a higher amperage regulator will be required to handle the load.
 

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I'm thinking the ECU has nothing to do with the charging unless it quits working and shuts down on low or high voltage. The charging system use's a separate Voltage regulator. If you do manage to install a higher amperage Stator, a higher amperage regulator will be required to handle the load.
That’s makes sense I could have swore I read it took a new ecu but I do drink a lot and could have made that up on my head lol


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Details please, from my research it couldn’t be done
According to people on the book face you buy the $650 canam kit and it will install right in. Now ECU etc. I know longball will be getting one in the next couple of weeks to install it sounds like. I believe one of the guys saying it works is a desert racer and said they removed the zrp alternator kit and just use the upgrade kit now.


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Requires a flywheel puller, a crankshaft locking bolt and a crankshaft protector for DYI.
 
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