It takes about 30% more E85 to get the job done. One of the first components needed to work in a flex fuel vehicle is the flex fuel sensor. If you were to make a non flex fuel vehicle into flex fuel capable, you would need that flex fuel sensor, the appropriate tune, larger injectors, sometimes a larger fuel pump and larger injectors.
Whalen speed ws200 tune
I have a stock 2021 rs turbo r, thinking about putting the whalen 200 tune in it. Wondering if anybody has had any issues with or from it?
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That sounds like more than I want to do, especially after just buying and installing my tune. I'm only looking to get about to 200whp out of my machine, so hopefully whalen's advertising is accurate. I'm not a duner so no need to do the work for crazy HP and E-85 tunes.It takes about 30% more E85 to get the job done. One of the first components needed to work in a flex fuel vehicle is the flex fuel sensor. If you were to make a non flex fuel vehicle into flex fuel capable, you would need that flex fuel sensor, the appropriate tune, larger injectors, sometimes a larger fuel pump and larger injectors.
Thanks for the info!
Yes “Blending” to achieve a particular octane (87+91=89) is a common practice. Tankers don’t deliver 89 octane so stations have to make it. What is.being discussed is NOT blending.
Illegal”blending” maybe…
Illegal”blending” maybe…
Illegal blending is what I was referring to.Yes “Blending” to achieve a particular octane (87+91=89) is a common practice. Tankers don’t deliver 89 octane so stations have to make it. What is.being discussed is NOT blending.
Illegal”blending” maybe…
Ws200/older ws170 tune is 193hp to the hubs on 91 and 198hp to the hubs on 93.My uncle has 21 x3 ds turbo, I have 22 model. We both recently installed ws200 (yes same exact tune as ws170). Kit included programmer/tune, intercooler/ducting, kwi clutch improvement kit. Took about 4 hours to complete installation on each machine. Price for our kits was about $2,700 each. You won’t need intercooler kit on R model. Fantastic tune, sport and eco mode both worth like oem. We installed 91 octane tunes (no 93 here in southern Idaho) 217 advertised crank horsepower, 170 rwhp. Incredible improvement, runs better and smoother than stock, clutch is much smoother and feels more solid. Excellent customer service, technician called from cell phone and texted pictures during our clutch work , made sure we got it right. We bought kwi clutch tools which made that part much easier. All in all I highly recommend Whalen speed! I’ve been in auto and atv industry for most of my life, these guys truely stand out
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You don't need a flex sensor to run E85, just a tune, larger fuel pump, and larger injectors. If you bought a PV3 you can get tunes from other tuners such as AA. The non RR cars take more supporting mods to get to 240hp but it's still possible without aftermarket turbos or opening the engine.That sounds like more than I want to do, especially after just buying and installing my tune. I'm only looking to get about to 200whp out of my machine, so hopefully whalen's advertising is accurate. I'm not a duner so no need to do the work for crazy HP and E-85 tunes.
Thanks for the info!
Is Everyone running the stock WG actuator with these tunes?
I run the BIG injector version of these tunes on my cars. Whalen includes the TIAL WG actuator with this package but so far I haven’t been too happy with it. Both cars would get horrible surging in the midrange and when you look at WGDC it’s down around 45% which is kind of low. On the bench the TIAL crack pressure starts at 11psi. No way to get lower than that. Put stock WG back on both cars and surging is gone.
I run the BIG injector version of these tunes on my cars. Whalen includes the TIAL WG actuator with this package but so far I haven’t been too happy with it. Both cars would get horrible surging in the midrange and when you look at WGDC it’s down around 45% which is kind of low. On the bench the TIAL crack pressure starts at 11psi. No way to get lower than that. Put stock WG back on both cars and surging is gone.
I have an RR and am just running a 91/93 tune so stock actuator. If memory serves me there was a bunch of complaints with aftermarket actuators, I'd probably keep the stock actuator if they work.Is Everyone running the stock WG actuator with these tunes?
I run the BIG injector version of these tunes on my cars. Whalen includes the TIAL WG actuator with this package but so far I haven’t been too happy with it. Both cars would get horrible surging in the midrange and when you look at WGDC it’s down around 45% which is kind of low. On the bench the TIAL crack pressure starts at 11psi. No way to get lower than that. Put stock WG back on both cars and surging is gone.
Only problem is when I switch back over to E85 the stock WG actuator isn’t enough and occasional get underboost CEL. Having to change WG out when switching fuels is a PITA.
Need to find a good actuator that works well with both fuels. The TIAL sucks on gas. Too much spring tension.
Need to find a good actuator that works well with both fuels. The TIAL sucks on gas. Too much spring tension.
I think the only reason the flex sensor was mentioned was because I had been talking about going back and forth from E85 to 93 on the same tune.You don't need a flex sensor to run E85, just a tune, larger fuel pump, and larger injectors. If you bought a PV3 you can get tunes from other tuners such as AA. The non RR cars take more supporting mods to get to 240hp but it's still possible without aftermarket turbos or opening the engine.
240 sounds like a lot of fun, but I don't know how much I'd use the power in my style of riding (other than maybe some lake beds I come across. And to piss of my father-in-law who has an RR lol
Is there a difference between the R and RR actuator? Whalen doesn't change the RR actuator for the big injector tunes.
I think a flex fuel sensor would only be needed if someone offered a flex fuel tune.You don't need a flex sensor to run E85, just a tune, larger fuel pump, and larger injectors. If you bought a PV3 you can get tunes from other tuners such as AA. The non RR cars take more supporting mods to get to 240hp but it's still possible without aftermarket turbos or opening the engine.
One word of caution to those intending to drive a good distance and run on E85…… Make sure you can either carry enough fuel, or there is fuel where you intend to ride.
I am probably going to do the Whalen tune, but will stop short of going E85 because of the fuel situation where I ride. I can ride near 200 miles a day and still be in reach of fuel , just 1/2 mile off the trail.
I did one of these kits for a friend, and had the same issue with crack pressure. The threaded rod or the arm needs to be a bit longer imo .Is Everyone running the stock WG actuator with these tunes?
I run the BIG injector version of these tunes on my cars. Whalen includes the TIAL WG actuator with this package but so far I haven’t been too happy with it. Both cars would get horrible surging in the midrange and when you look at WGDC it’s down around 45% which is kind of low. On the bench the TIAL crack pressure starts at 11psi. No way to get lower than that. Put stock WG back on both cars and surging is gone.
Could be. Always assumed they were the sameIs there a difference between the R and RR actuator? Whalen doesn't change the RR actuator for the big injector tunes.
Did he find an actuator that worked with both fuels?I did one of these kits for a friend, and had the same issue with crack pressure. The threaded rod or the arm needs to be a bit longer imo .
The BRP actuator part number for the R and RR is the same. The difference has to be the turbo which are different. Whalen's E85 R crack pressure is listed as 12psi and the E85 RR crack pressure is 14psi.Could be. Always assumed they were the same
It's a fact.A second hand story isn't fact. Fuel octane is tested by each state's responsible regulatory agency, in Oregon it is ODA. If I bought fuel and suddenly had a bunch of knock or horrible fuel economy I'd turn in the fuel station. This comes up with surprising regularity, especially with regard to water contamination, your story is untrue.
Oh look someone with a high hp street car that knows you can't trust pump gas, just like I said. (thank you for chiming in btw)It is so common practice that locally here it is called “Blending”. Not the refinery type, but they mix regular into the premium at the station and sell it as premium.
I personally know of one station that has been cited TWICE and is still open. They change names and the same crew shows up for work.
This is exactly why I run E85, (well this and the big additional HP). I don’t need to check the octane. I have an Aeroforce Interceptor gauge in my ZL1 that I added to pick up the alcohol content. It plugs into the OBDII port and constantly reads my level. I know what I have minutes after it’s in my tank. I skip the stations with the low readings and focus on the big numbers.
Maybe this isn't known amongst SxS people as much because they think 400 hp is a lot lol
400 hp is a lot for under 1L
a 6L would be over 2400HP!
or a 5.3 @ 2100hp
a 6L would be over 2400HP!
or a 5.3 @ 2100hp
Only running pump 91.Did he find an actuator that worked with both fuels?
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