We'll I got the mav out after it's been sitting for awhile couldn't take it anymore. Lol I put about 10 miles on going down the back roads here, had to use 4 wheel drive. The roads are snow covered. It would just spin the tires in 2wd. It worked way better in 4wd. It was freezing but it wasn't to bad with windshield it's 12deg here right now. It ran good with the 30's on it. It stills pulls hard when I got on dry pavement I think I'll like the new motoclaws. Felt good to get the beast out. I'm sure I'll do it again tomorrow or something.