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Yep if he is playing in mud he needs to go 5000. The suction hold mud can put on your buggy is absolutely amazing. If you were on your way back from a long ride ready to get back to camp and cook up a warm meal...then get stuck in deep muck that just sucked the whole buggy down, what would you rather have just barely enough or plenty of winch to pull ya out. Sometimes it's just "piece of mind"but in the case of a winch going 5000lbs isn't piece of mind it's a must. Find something else to save money on not the winch
 
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