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Paddle comparisons for X3

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#1 ·
I know, here we go again!!!

So I was at st Anthony for 9 days last week, rained almost entire time again. I had (2) full sets of tires. 30/11/14 10 paddle extremes and Tom's (TIK in forum, he runs them on his X3 DS) full set 28" #2 STU paddles with 3 rib fronts

Extremes: throw sand like crazy, lots of wheel speed, the fronts even buffed do help in 4wd, very fast on top end, decent stability when dunning at high speed, 7" rims all corners, running 9 psi = conclusion, not enough tire for tuned machines, would be perfect on stock machine though

STU 28" #2 : more paddles helped launch harder, not throwing as much sand, more stable while dunning due to being wider, 4wd didn't seem much different, turned better, slower on top end, being shorter was noticeable as that extra ground clearance is needed when coming into dips fast not wanting to plow front end carrying momentum, 8 wide rims front, 10" rear, overall weight was close on fronts, rears were few lbs heavier each, running 9psi = conclusion, molded are less fragile in lave / rocky area, would prefer these in 30" if I was to buy, they dune better when running high speed due to width, would even consider a #1 paddle maybe?


If it's any hint of wet sand, stock 30" tires aired down do better then any paddle, I saw stock machines doing very well while it was slightly wet, as things dried out paddles had advantage

So now I am going to buy a set of 31.5" or 30"stagger rippers and run them on 8" front and back I think, there goes another $2k


Matt
 
#60 ·
once mounted I will also post what my width is, gonna be huge I think. I do also have my shocks at shock therapy so when those go back on with the taller ride height it creates may skinny me up a little as It will have me at 16" ride height which sucks in the width a little

Matt
 
#66 ·
RS or DS? as always your riding location, style and overall goal has a lot to do with the decision. I want to beat all of my friends, some strangers, as many Polaris's as possible and still have fun hauling ass. I don't sit and hill shoot all day, just usually have some grudge matches each time we meet up to settle who is fastest then we move along to our drinking spot


Matt
 
#68 · (Edited)
I am UT also. (X3 2 seater) I recently made a trip to Kombustion and they said a customer of theirs ditched the Skats and went to the STU's. Apparently he likes them 10X more. I have always had the Skats on my wheelers but I don't trust they would hold up over some of that lava rock at St Anthony's. I'm going with the STU since the reviews seem very positive from local guys. Good luck with your choice. I'm headed to Sand Mtn tomorrow but still on the Bighorns :-(
 
#71 ·
I would rather run stock tires than a Molded tire for sure. [emoji106][emoji106]

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#77 ·
I've seen them. Very thin and soft blades should last a long time.

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#80 ·
I would still just run stock Bighorns,

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#85 · (Edited)
Why? Have you tried them? They work great.....sand is a lot different in Oregon but they also worked great in Idaho. FYI, the small center paddle is the "Oregon" cut, since there is a lot of either gravel or pavement to get from parking/camping here, leaving this small center paddle gives support so full paddles don't wear so bad. Friend who cut tires in Portland has done this for a while now with good success.
 
#121 ·
I decided after this last winter if there is even a hint of rain or wet sand I run my stock tires, they do amazing and the tread on the front just pulls and pulls!!!

My opinions here are to help save somebody the cost of buying the wrong tires like I keep doing. We all know that there will be personal preference matched to riding location and desired results, not everybody cares to get every inch of performance out of their machine and dont have the need to spend the extra $$ to just cruise around and have fun!!!



Matt
 
#122 ·
Thanks Matt. I want to be fast but even on 20% tread left I am KILLING my friends Packard supercharged and paddled YXZ up the hills with my 220lb wife and he has no passenger. I feel like why would I want to have paddles that I worry about not being the perfect combo and clutching bla bla bla.


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#123 ·
totaly agree, what works at glamis, is different then St anthony, and again different then oklahoma etc.....

what do the guys in Dubai run? I think just dirt tires except on that one big hill as they drive them home


Matt
 
#124 ·
To bad you don't have a set of the 30" or 32 CST sand Blasters to run. I think for the money they are the best bang for the buck.


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#133 ·
I just got some 30 inch CSTs to try last week while at Dunefest. CST had their big rig there and for the price I figured why the heck not and give them a try. I was running the stock big horns prior. I had them mounted on the stock beadlock rims but for the life of us the beadlock rings kept leaking air and could not get them to seal with the CSTs. So I ended up buying a set of wheels too lol which is fine because I wanted a set down the road anyways and I got a good deal I feel like. Air leak issue was solved with new rims.

Guys were there who helped design the CST tire recommended to go with a 7 inch wide wheel vs. 9 inch. Said it helps to keep the paddle rounded and narrow. Sorta like a street bike tire. Said with the 4wd of the SXS, the narrower wheel works vs wider like on 2wd quads and rails. Even being a molded tire it's only a 2 ply and pretty light weight. I'm sure not skat light weight though. Their X3 on display had 32 inch CST on 15x7 wheels and they run it in 4wd all the time and it's over 200 hp they said. Loved the look of the 32s and I almost did it when I had to buy wheels too but I'm all stock still power and clutching so stuck with the 30s.

Didn't get a ton of seat time but I'm very happy so far with the purchase. They seem to work great and if you want to have fun drifting it around you can in 2wd. Everyone in my camp couldn't believe the price of the CSTs and are interested in trying them out. We have about a 3/4 mile asphalt road to ride on to hit the sand from out camp so I'll be interested to see how they hold up. The little nubs between the paddles should help on the hard road surface.
 
#125 ·
By the way I to started riding at a young age in Pismo when you could ride to Devil's slide and the lake in the way back area of the dunes.


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#126 ·
I was born there in 73', grew up in arroyo grande and as a kid I remember being in my dads blazer pulling people out of devils, going on beach at pismo and going to end of beach, no fences, no rangers with rails or hummers, water pumper sand rails etc....

In high school I had a 4wd chevy shortbed and would be out there all weekend pulling people out of the ocean for beer, drag racing at comp, un-corking my truck and running straight headers, good times
 
#127 ·
My dad and his friends would drag race their jeeps down the beach. The ranger never liked that.

Pismo was a lot of fun when it was fully open.



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#128 ·
the good old days


so, if you want to know of one of the last dunes of size with no rangers, no fees, you don't need paddles (you can run them but the couple big hills dirt tires make it a challenge), is 40 miles long, has dry lake bed for drag racing, no girls in bathing suits though. Winnemucca, we love going and you can just stay there, have fun and ride, no fees and no BS!!!
 
#132 ·
You might spin off the start but more paddles will probably slow your top speed on the hill.

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