I just ran my 32”, 12paddle Sandcraft skats with extreme blades in Glamis yesterday. I like them even in wet sand with stock 2017 power.

 

I just ran my 32”, 12paddle Sandcraft skats with extreme blades in Glamis yesterday. I like them even in wet sand with stock 2017 power.

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What are sandcraft Skats? Are they different than normal Skat Traks?


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A wider rim, lays the paddle out flatter and will give you better flotation.


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Also can allow the car to slide the ass end easier depending on how flat you make the tire profile with the wider wheel. Think of the Funco cars with the wide flat profile rear tires (some of the best handling cars in the dunes).

 

Yes I can run around no problem . I haven’t tried more paddles in skat but I hav tried less .i like this set up much better. I also have ran the 30 in cst and not my cup of tea I gave them away

 

Since the aftermarket hasn't caught up with the times yet I guess I am stuck running a 14" for stock offset. That said, my option is either a 7 or 8 wide wheel but when talking with Tim at Xtreme he said he doubted I could see or feel a difference in one inch. Wouldn't mind a littleflatter profile.

 

Are you limited to width because of where you ride or your trailer?

 

i deffinatly noticed the difference 1inch wider front and rear wheels made and liked it much better.

 

anyone have a 5/2 offset with 31.5 or 32" skats, can you measure from outside to outside of front and rear please?

 

Def want to use a measurement on machine as tire bulge is widder then rim, worse on a 7". Mine are on 8's front and back and even my stagger paddles stick out beyond the sidewall

 

Yes thats what i would want and on a 7" rim, it was in my head but i didnt type it LOL. I just bought some 5/2 for dirt tires, it fits but not much extra room.

 

I can do it later tonight, they are not scats, (32" CST ) but might give you an idea if no one else replys, they are mounted on 15x7 5+2 STI HD5 wheels

 

Just a little skat porn

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Skats, and Kings nice! What size Skat and WE wheel?

 

on 6" rims I bet those straight huck!!!!! Max RO as well, I dig em

 

Curious why you went with a skinny rim in the back as opposed to the 14x10?


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I think he said he has width concerns due to the trees in the Oregon dunes.


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I usually run on a 10” wide rim, with the exception of the CMS setups I’ve ran in the past. I’m inquiring into the personal found differences in duning the 10” wide rims staggered extremes vs the 8” wide rims. What’re the pros and cons....


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I'm not sure to the 10" comparison as I've never ran any wider than an 8" with skats. Seems some guys like to slide and drift through terrain. I really like the feel of a car that bites and stays planted. This time around my wheels are only 6" wide, because if aftermark offsets I decided to give it a try. May not be the holy grail. Time will tell

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Wider rim will float, skinnier will dig. Wider rims will make tires shorter, skinny make tires taller. Wide rims will have a flatter paddle blade, skinny will be a curved blade. Mine and kyles paddles wrap the sidewall as we are running staggers on skinny rims, his are extreme skinny and prob pretty light as well. On skinny rims w/staggers we basically create a side grip or side bite out of our paddles. Don't know if its better or worse, but I know you don't want to ride behind me.

 

Exactly.. even on a 6" rim my skats are wider than my 32x10x14 maxxis liberty's on the same wheel by a bit.

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yep, they ballon out

what PSI you running yours at? I was doing 12.5 rear / 13 front as I am on 8" rims front and back

 

Was gonna start 14/16 to see then back them down till they flex to much. I've always ran 2lbs more front with skats

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I may try airing them up a little more

 

And as far as flotation goes. You think you need 8" front and 10" rear on a 1700lb sxs? 36" of footprint for flotation? Not saying either one of is can do more than another but saying you need that much tire width in Oregon is far fetched

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Last year utv takeover with skinny 7" no flotation skat tires against full built rzr's with launch control and wide stu's. I'm still learning.

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I run a straight pipe so I might as well call the Oregon cops on myself, otherwise I would go check that event out with you, ha

 

perfect temps, Evo stage-5 E-85 tune, rippers, straight pipe, clutched and sea level!!!! what more could anybody ask for

 

Your belt to hold up for more than 200 miles haha! Did you get it to the dealer to check clutch alignment?

 

Well, when you guys figure out what Skats you want, give me a shout! I will do my best to give you a good deal!

 

Looking for recommendations.
I don't drag race, but like to go fast through the dunes and climb up there backsides.

Looking for a setup for 15" wheels 31.5 to 32" tire on 8" front and 10" rear.

 

why doesn't extreme offer a turning tire to go with their big tires as part of the match sets? This isnt about whats faster and we know the shaved tire does help in 4wd, but why not a ribbed or grooved tire for those that want a little more control / predictability when changing direction? Not talking about the tribute mini paddle, just a rib like all the sand rails run?

warlock, why doesn't the other Tim make those as an option? I would think there is a demand for them as some will sacrifice the drag it creates for drivability depending on driver style sand dune location

 

Tim doesn't like the idea of the front tire rib making a disturbance in the sand that the rear tires have to fight. The smooth tire packs the sand for the rear to have a good surface for traction. Rib tires really don't offer a bunch of input on steering but the sure help fling more sand in the air. We drive our car a little different I guess also as I tap the brakes before the turn set the car and go into the turn.

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Wide tires slide more, skinny tires not so much. I personally wouldn't go less than 10 paddle and if you plan on tuning maybe 12 plus

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Yes a pwrtune 4int

 

30" CST Sandblast mounted on 14x8 STI HD9 wheels weigh 43.2 lbs.
Big Horns on stock wheels: 45.6 lbs

I decided to remove the nubs on Sandblast and that took the weight down to 41.7 lbs

 

Had a blast last weekend, finally getting to run the 32's on 6" rim. So happy with the overall ride and traction. Not going back to wide wheels anytime soon. Love the sixes

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Pic of the width, please.

 

We ride at Little Sahara in Oklahoma. The dunes are small compared to out west, and there isn’t a ton of room to open the machines up like most people have. We rarely get up past 60-65 mph before I shut it down. Armed with this knowledge, and the fact that I’m set on getting tall skats, would the 12 paddle staggered rippers make a good choice? I’ve got stage 3 evo tuning, full hmf exhaust, evo intake, evo clutching. It’s a 2017 Max. I’m calling Tim today at Xtreme, just wanted to shoot for a few last minute opinions. I’m open ears, I just don’t want to be under paddled. Not concerned about how fast I can run up a huge dune, because those don’t exist for us. Thanks guys

 

I have a similar set up. Everything you have but EVO exhaust, no clutching. 2 seat XRS. I run Extreme 31.5s with 10 paddles. No complaints.