7 front 8 rear, but wish I had 8 front 10 rear

 

Curious, why?

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I would like a little wider wheel to widen out the tires some for better sliding, but it works well like it is.

 

Just thought I'd add that I've been running 102 roll out skats ( 12 extreme staggered / buffed fronts 14 psi) on my stock motor xrs max mounted on factory wheels in glamis the last few days. And I couldn't be happier with them, they hook well and slide around when I want in 2wd

 

If those Skats had a 102" Rollout on the side wall your probably at 104 or close to it on a stock wheel. Skat trak buffs them on a 14" wide wheel.

 

TMW just received this order from Tim. 32” 10 and 12 paddle staggered
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TMW just received this order from Tim. 32” 10 and 12 paddle staggered
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Gotta Lome some Skats

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I’ve been following this conversation for a while and I haven’t heard much about front tires. I see in all the posted pictures that most of you have the buffed tires up front. I’ve only got one season in my X3 and haven’t bought a set of sand tires yet. I have only ran the ridged front tires. Would love to hear some comments on this. I apologize now if this should be a separate posting.


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Don't have anything to compare it to, but here is my opinion. They push in turns at speed. I've blown through some turns as I was going too fast, and had to loop back around. The X3 just carries a lot more speed than other SXSs, so you have to set up for turns with a little more thought. They dune great. Very happy with them.

 

Anyone tried out the Baja Pro's like sand cars use up front?

 

Anyone tried out the Baja Pro's like sand cars use up front?
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Well, if they are good enough for Funco..........

For the X3, might not be a bad choice.

 

Holy sh!t, did I just get called a mouth breather? That Kanye Hollywood for you input. The rest I’m sorry for asking. Megad!ck I’ll take a different driving school. Maybe I’m just being sensitive I do have that bug going around.


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Nope, I didn’t call you that. But if you want to wear that badge then so you shall be called. Have a blessed day you mouth breathing prick.

 

With the Max I wonder if they will ever come out with a turning brake? The sandrail that was leading our group of 18 cars was about the same length as my Max X3 and
you could obviously see when he used the turning brake and nailed the gas. It was a definite advantage. I had to peddle the brake at times to unload my springs to get the X3s weight to transfer and then nail it to get the a$$ end to whip around. No complaints... just another reason why I personally prefer to drive in 4wd.

Since this thread is about paddles comparisons I have to say that I like my 32" x 15" CST paddles as they give me extra ground clearance and the 15 - 7/8" tall paddles really work while dunning. I run 8" front wheels GMZ Casino and 10" rear wheels and they make my tires really wide and are great at flotation. I can stop with an incline and just drive out in 4wd where I saw a few sxs's do that and they dug in and got stuck. I pulled up right next to them and helped rock their sxs and push them out.

I am not the fastest out of the hole by any means but they work very well overall while dunning. I have watched video of my car and you can't even hardly see a roost when I nail it out of the hole nor at any speed. The price of these tires is very fair as well. I can see why people want to run the Skats. They get some excellent traction and throw quite a roost. They look awesome! However, I wonder how much extra strain they place on the axles and CV's?

 

Can’t happen with a solid rear differential. You can do it to the front but I don’t think it will work well in the front.

I really don’t see a need for turning brakes.

 

Hahaha! Will the real slim mega please stand up, there he is. Damn, and to think I've gotten flaq for my tone on here before. Lol

But really, wtf is a mouth breather? Sounds dirty.

 

Do you drive a 2 seater or 4 seater?

 

lol, this thread turned sideways fast, here are a couple quick pictures of my RC with STI HD5 15x7 wheels with the 32" CST tire setup, hopefully i can get down to the dunes soon to try them out.

 

By chance did you weigh them once mounted?

lol, this thread turned sideways fast, here are a couple quick pictures of my RC with STI HD5 15x7 wheels with the 32" CST tire setup, hopefully i can get down to the dunes soon to try them out.

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What wheels are those? width? etc??
Looks good!
I also run my front with the tread running opposite of what you have. I think I will switch them around next trip and test it out to see which I like. The reason I run them the "wrong" way is to stop the possibility of catching an edge and tipping. At least that is the theory....

 

What wheels are those? width? etc??
Looks good!

They are STI HD5 Beadlock 15x7 Black/machined with a 5+2 offset, it is about 2" wider than stock

They are the cheapest 15" beadlock I could find, I got them for $118 each shipped. their weight is similar to other beadlocks in this size and price range

 

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learn something new every day!!!

 

I run 8" and 10" and my tires measure at 9.5 inches wide in front and 12 inches wide in the rear. Can you measure your tires to compare the floatation of these tires as compared to 7" wide wheels? I am also at 5 psi as I tried dunning at 9 psi and at 5 psi and I prefer the traction and ride quality at the lower psi.

 

At 10 psi the fronts are about 9.5" and the rears are about 11.25" wide

 

You are at max at 10 psi. I hope you are taking that measurement in the hot sun. Otherwise, you will exceed the psi recommendation of the manufacturer.
I first ran at 9 psi and when the sun came out my psi went over 10 so I lowered it to be 9 psi in the warmest part of the day.

 

I just got them mounted and at 10psi to get the beads to seat. I will drop the psi when i hit the dunes

 

You are going to have a blast! I had to get my wheels and tires up to 30-40 psi before I heard that POP! It is like waiting for a fire cracker or bomb to go off...Hate it! lol Don't forget to re-torque after putting some time on the X3.

 

Yea, never heard that one before

 

Here is the first "mouth breather!"

 

Don't think Mega was talking was talking to you.. =ORDuner;1161714]Holy sh!t, did I just get called a mouth breather? That Kanye Hollywood for you input. The rest I’m sorry for asking. Megad!ck I’ll take a different driving school. Maybe I’m just being sensitive I do have that bug going around.


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Still running my 30” CST set up and they are great. I don’t tap my skids anymore than the X3 in the group that are running 32” tires.

The max in our group runs the 32” 10 paddle Sandcraft Skats. Those paddles pull, throw a shit done of sand, but are a badass set up.


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Those Sandcraft tires don't have much roll out. They are a short tire for being a 15" wheel. Like 94" Roll out so they are barely a 30" tire.

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these Sandcraft 31, pictured, ( come in 32 also ) on 10 or 11 wide wheels are a great Choice to go if you are a real “Turn and burn driver”

the scatTrac cut tires leave the sidewall untouched, giving the tire less sidewall flexing but softer on the contact surface.

In the Dunes, full speed, full throttle drifting was a blast in both smooth or rough Sand. Fast Air time landings are sweet and controlled.
Tires handle well, I could pretty much toss the car sideways With great tire holding power leaving the driver with high confidence levels.

This cut and tire shape give this tire and wheel set up good progressive control. Some of the other molded tires we have tested have “less” overall hold and control. This dosnt mean other tires are bad! This is by comparison. And I’m talking from cruising the Dunes up to bolistic driving!

Is this tire the plushest tire? Simple answer, No.

On the other side, A smaller, narrow wheel, thin, tall tire is nice for comforts in rough Sand, drag racing and similar usage.
But this set up can have weaknesses in other ways that might not be desirable? Just as the tire setups on the other side of the spectrum may have less desirable aspects for some drivers?

For me, After a few weeks of testing the pizza cutter approach, it was nice to get on some tires that more fit my personal style. You can only play “Joey Chitwood” so many times in the Dunes!

again, it’s up to the owner to decide on personal driving style and then you can decide on a tire combo that fits that style.
This is important so your not disappointed after making a tire and wheel purchase.
I have the opportunity to drive many wheel and tire combos and I take full advantage of learning!
That makes for experienced choices.

a owners driving style should determine what tire and wheel combo to run.

 

Well the Xtreme tire carcass has zero flex issues and is used for Duning by some of the fastest Duners out there and have no issues at all. Super light and works great for all applications weather it's duning or racing cause every dune is a race to the top with us.

Now that is what you need to put on Xtreme website because I have never seen a pitch like that before. Although I do agree that Skats Xtremes and Sandcrafts included are the best sand tires. When you put a 104 rollout tire on a 14x7 wheel and dune flat out, cutting, carving and not just following the flow of the dunes I would just have to believe that those tires on those wheels are going to have some flex and the car a little extra instability. Top fuel dragsters run tires like that. Now I believe if you dune with the flow and like to run the drags 14x7s are it. If you drive like bats out of hell in the dunes I believe 8s and 10s on 14s and even on 15s are going to be the ticket

 

Now that is what you need to put on Xtreme website because I have never seen a pitch like that before. Although I do agree that Skats Xtremes and Sandcrafts included are the best sand tires. When you put a 104 rollout tire on a 14x7 wheel and dune flat out, cutting, carving and not just following the flow of the dunes I would just have to believe that those tires on those wheels are going to have some flex and the car a little extra instability. Top fuel dragsters run tires like that. Now I believe if you dune with the flow and like to run the drags 14x7s are it. If you drive like bats out of hell in the dunes I believe 8s and 10s on 14s and even on 15s are going to be the ticket

One guy who is really fast Duners went to a 8 and he swears the 7 is still better. He is gonna go back to 7s. We run hard in the Dunes and they don't feel loose or unstable at all. We all run 12 psi minimum rear and 14 front and a few like 14 rear and 16 front. Skat Trak also tells people not to run under 10 psi.

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That is a big sand tire


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It's the only way to go now days especially with how beat up the Dunes get.

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Damnit! I need wider wheels

 

I'm not very fast but loved the 7's. This go around I'll be on 6's. Lol. Mainly due to our dune trail system. speed in Oregon is short spurts and we don't get that wide open duning like glamis. Still waiting for a lightweight 5+2 cms or simular. Hate sectors

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I seen another CMS wheel with busted out center in Glamis last weekend. Too lightweight in the wrong places, if you ax me.

 

We are talking about sidewall flex in the sand correct? Not on a corvette on a solid surface paved road?

A lower ply tire would run different psi vs a heavier one to compensate if flex was a concern, not sure other than adjusting psi accordingly you cant achieve the same goal, especially since we are "digging" into the sand


We have all seen the pic of a dragster tire sidewall in slow motion on launch and the flex it creates, look at their tire vs rim width


Good day!!!

 

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