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Paddle comparisons for X3

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#1 ·
I know, here we go again!!!

So I was at st Anthony for 9 days last week, rained almost entire time again. I had (2) full sets of tires. 30/11/14 10 paddle extremes and Tom's (TIK in forum, he runs them on his X3 DS) full set 28" #2 STU paddles with 3 rib fronts

Extremes: throw sand like crazy, lots of wheel speed, the fronts even buffed do help in 4wd, very fast on top end, decent stability when dunning at high speed, 7" rims all corners, running 9 psi = conclusion, not enough tire for tuned machines, would be perfect on stock machine though

STU 28" #2 : more paddles helped launch harder, not throwing as much sand, more stable while dunning due to being wider, 4wd didn't seem much different, turned better, slower on top end, being shorter was noticeable as that extra ground clearance is needed when coming into dips fast not wanting to plow front end carrying momentum, 8 wide rims front, 10" rear, overall weight was close on fronts, rears were few lbs heavier each, running 9psi = conclusion, molded are less fragile in lave / rocky area, would prefer these in 30" if I was to buy, they dune better when running high speed due to width, would even consider a #1 paddle maybe?


If it's any hint of wet sand, stock 30" tires aired down do better then any paddle, I saw stock machines doing very well while it was slightly wet, as things dried out paddles had advantage

So now I am going to buy a set of 31.5" or 30"stagger rippers and run them on 8" front and back I think, there goes another $2k


Matt
 
#905 ·
Just thought I'd add that I've been running 102 roll out skats ( 12 extreme staggered / buffed fronts 14 psi) on my stock motor xrs max mounted on factory wheels in glamis the last few days. And I couldn't be happier with them, they hook well and slide around when I want in 2wd
 

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#906 ·
If those Skats had a 102" Rollout on the side wall your probably at 104 or close to it on a stock wheel. Skat trak buffs them on a 14" wide wheel.
 
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I’ve been following this conversation for a while and I haven’t heard much about front tires. I see in all the posted pictures that most of you have the buffed tires up front. I’ve only got one season in my X3 and haven’t bought a set of sand tires yet. I have only ran the ridged front tires. Would love to hear some comments on this. I apologize now if this should be a separate posting.


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#911 ·
Don't have anything to compare it to, but here is my opinion. They push in turns at speed. I've blown through some turns as I was going too fast, and had to loop back around. The X3 just carries a lot more speed than other SXSs, so you have to set up for turns with a little more thought. They dune great. Very happy with them.
 
#921 ·
With the Max I wonder if they will ever come out with a turning brake? The sandrail that was leading our group of 18 cars was about the same length as my Max X3 and
you could obviously see when he used the turning brake and nailed the gas. It was a definite advantage. I had to peddle the brake at times to unload my springs to get the X3s weight to transfer and then nail it to get the a$$ end to whip around. No complaints... just another reason why I personally prefer to drive in 4wd.

Since this thread is about paddles comparisons I have to say that I like my 32" x 15" CST paddles as they give me extra ground clearance and the 15 - 7/8" tall paddles really work while dunning. I run 8" front wheels GMZ Casino and 10" rear wheels and they make my tires really wide and are great at flotation. I can stop with an incline and just drive out in 4wd where I saw a few sxs's do that and they dug in and got stuck. I pulled up right next to them and helped rock their sxs and push them out.

I am not the fastest out of the hole by any means but they work very well overall while dunning. I have watched video of my car and you can't even hardly see a roost when I nail it out of the hole nor at any speed. The price of these tires is very fair as well. I can see why people want to run the Skats. They get some excellent traction and throw quite a roost. They look awesome! However, I wonder how much extra strain they place on the axles and CV's?
 
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Do you drive a 2 seater or 4 seater?
 
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#927 · (Edited)
What wheels are those? width? etc??
Looks good!
I also run my front with the tread running opposite of what you have. I think I will switch them around next trip and test it out to see which I like. The reason I run them the "wrong" way is to stop the possibility of catching an edge and tipping. At least that is the theory....
 
#930 ·
I run 8" and 10" and my tires measure at 9.5 inches wide in front and 12 inches wide in the rear. Can you measure your tires to compare the floatation of these tires as compared to 7" wide wheels? I am also at 5 psi as I tried dunning at 9 psi and at 5 psi and I prefer the traction and ride quality at the lower psi.
 
#932 ·
You are at max at 10 psi. I hope you are taking that measurement in the hot sun. Otherwise, you will exceed the psi recommendation of the manufacturer.
I first ran at 9 psi and when the sun came out my psi went over 10 so I lowered it to be 9 psi in the warmest part of the day.
 
#934 ·
You are going to have a blast! I had to get my wheels and tires up to 30-40 psi before I heard that POP! It is like waiting for a fire cracker or bomb to go off...Hate it! lol Don't forget to re-torque after putting some time on the X3.
 
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Here is the first "mouth breather!"
 
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Don't think Mega was talking was talking to you.. =ORDuner;1161714]Holy sh!t, did I just get called a mouth breather? That Kanye Hollywood for you input. The rest I’m sorry for asking. Megad!ck I’ll take a different driving school. Maybe I’m just being sensitive I do have that bug going around.


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#945 ·
Still running my 30” CST set up and they are great. I don’t tap my skids anymore than the X3 in the group that are running 32” tires.

The max in our group runs the 32” 10 paddle Sandcraft Skats. Those paddles pull, throw a shit done of sand, but are a badass set up.


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#946 ·
Those Sandcraft tires don't have much roll out. They are a short tire for being a 15" wheel. Like 94" Roll out so they are barely a 30" tire.

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#951 ·
It's the only way to go now days especially with how beat up the Dunes get.

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#971 ·
We are talking about sidewall flex in the sand correct? Not on a corvette on a solid surface paved road?

A lower ply tire would run different psi vs a heavier one to compensate if flex was a concern, not sure other than adjusting psi accordingly you cant achieve the same goal, especially since we are "digging" into the sand


We have all seen the pic of a dragster tire sidewall in slow motion on launch and the flex it creates, look at their tire vs rim width


Good day!!!