I would really be interested in learning the result in dry conditions based on your comment about the performance of stock tires. Thanks for posting. ��

 

Great comparison. I'm on board with all you said. I have 12pdl stag extremes and I'm wanting 12 or 14 stag rippers. These cars need some paddle for sure

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So is your conclusion the the STU are the best all around dune set up?


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Oh no, LOL!

I really would like to try a set of STUs, they work well on my Wildcat. I just don't want to spend $2K with wheels, to find I made an expensive mistake.

 

I would say skat 30/11/14 are for stock machines only

If you do stu's get 30" and may do better with #1 comp cut full paddle?

I wish my skats were the 13 wide as I might be ok with them with my tune and where I ride

 

our group of X3 cars love the Skats aired up to 14 & 16 psi and that keeps the tires from flex and you can drive it into the hard turns like it's on rails. They all tried running them at 10psi and hated it. Most people won't push there cars as hard into the turns and might not ever get it. Kinda like a motorcycle in the Dunes the narrow tire being aired up just sticks it in the hard turns.

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Nice to know now, LOL! I thought the sweet spot for Skat was 10 psi? So if I find dry sand this year, 14 - 16 psi???

 

I am far from an expert on sand tires but I had 9 paddle extremes and could not get out of the hole worth a damn with the sand we have at Little Sahara OK. Went to 14 paddle staggered rippers and 100% improvement, much, much better out of the hole and still duned very similar.

 

Peat and repeat!

 

You should try the 32" skat set up that Fullerton has been running or the STU Blackbirds


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Warlock I have run skats for nearly 30yrs and have them on all my atv's, sxs and now even dirtbikes. My whole point is everywhere I've duned, Oregon, Idaho, Nevada, and California. 1 tire doesn't fit the bill for all the different styles of sand and riding areas and styles. I feel extremely underpaddeled in the NW compared to being down south. I'll probly be stepping up to try these larger 31.5 carcasses this year along with the larger ripper paddle. Curios as if you've ever ran these skats on a 6" wide wheel and your experiences. The cms wheels are great but to wide on my xrs were I go.

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Narrow wheels work great so if if you have a 6" wheel then run it. Even the Guys over at UTV Inc like the narrow 7" wheels.
If you feel like your gonna need more paddle for your riding area for sure paddle up. You have countless ways to build the Skats where as with a Molded tire you only have about 5 ways to mod them.

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For glamis i love my 30 inch 8 paddles xtremes on cms. Did i notice much of a difference duning compared to my doonz paddles no, but drag racing. Whenever i drag race first thing i do is look at their paddles. If they arent skats good chance ill win with only 110hp. I pulled up to a few turbo yxzs they looked at me funny. They said go. One jumped out on me i ran him down another never caught me in my short bus

 

What was your wheel speed and rpm at the top of choke?

 

rpms in 4wd were lower then I want, around 7200 in 4wd, 7650 in 2wd, was at about 44mph topping the hill.

3 weeks before when it was wetter and more compacted, 55mph at top around same rpm

 

Don't listen to all the hype about being over-paddled or tires being too heavy. Just get these and be done with it.

SV1300P - Rear Sand Viper Paddle Tire, 13.00-15

 

Hi Guys.. i am on a budget.. about 1200 max to spend on paddles and wheels. would like some opinions. i have a pwrtune stage 1 tune. i am looking at a package of CST sandblast 30x12x14 rear, 30x10x14 front. Mounted on STI HD5 machine beadlock 14x9 rear, 14x7 front. Also, not sure what offset to run, if any. Any comments appreciated. Thanks!

 

I like mine, they have a nice drifting ability. I run 5+5 rear wheels and 5+4 front wheels

 

14x14 Skats Extreme on a 10 inch Douglas Ultimate, no bead lock, just a bit over 30 tall with 12 paddles.
Very good out of the hole, felt really good at low and high speeds, weighs in at just over 30 pounds which is the same weight as the stock tire before you add a rim.
Started at ten pounds, ended up at 9 for the rest of the weekend.
The offset put me at 79 wide.

 

Hey, I figured it out


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I know this isn't the classifieds, but I may be selling my 30x13x14 Warlock tires 12pdl stag extremes on cms wheels. Just a thinking out loud.

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Well, I didn't want to spend another 2k for rims and tires, but I now have a set of 31.5 stagger, 14 paddle, ripper, Kevlar, blah, blah, blah. Will be mounted to casino non beadlock 14x8 front and back. I sent my clutch to KWI to get the works so hope these tires combined with the new clutching puts it to the ground. If not I think I may need the can am 18' update and then will go to the evo 4RI set up and possibly add the pwr tune intake kit to that.



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That from Extreme Tire (Tim)? Whats it weigh?

 

I have the 12 paddle staggered rippers. Great paddle!!! Only issue is I mounted them on the factory beadlocks (xds), the did rub the trailing arm. I'm gonna need a wheel spacer to fix it. Tho, obviously , an offset wheel would do the trick

 

12 paddle staggered rippers in Colorado

 

here is a comparison:

30" x 11 skats with extreme (10) paddle, on 14/7 rims, fronts 27.2 lbs, rears 29lbs, 92" ro rear, 93" ro front. These are from skat on their tire carcass

31.5" x 13.5 rippers, (14) paddle, full stagger, 14/8 rim, fronts 29lbs, rear 33.2, rears 99" ro, fronts 100"+ ro , these are tim from extremes kevlar carcass he provides to skat

Matt

 

here is a comparison:

30" x 11 skats with extreme (10) paddle, on 14/7 rims, fronts 27.2 lbs, rears 29lbs, 92" ro rear, 93" ro front. These are from skat on their tire carcass

31.5" x 13.5 rippers, (14) paddle, full stagger, 14/8 rim, fronts 29lbs, rear 33.2, rears 99" ro, fronts 100"+ ro , these are tim from extremes kevlar carcass he provides to scat

Matt

That's incredible! I can't believe the difference. First time I think I have ever seen them compared like that.

 

Those rippers are ridiculously sexy.

There definitely looks to be a greater diameter difference than 1.5" gauging the truck front end in relation to tire height. Which one meets the advertised height? Curious what the carcass diameter is for each?

 

the 30" is 30.5, the 31.5" is 34" and is taller then my 285 tires on my work truck, crazy. I think Tim with extremes 30" would be between these 2 sizes as his obviously have more roll out then the ones skat uses on their own product. Both tires have 12 psi in them in the photos

 

Is that the carcass size or overall to the paddle tips?

 

carcass, I am still shocked at how the 31.5 dwarfs the 30, doesn't make sense.

 

Wow! That's ginormous. Love to hear how they do and how the car clutch turns them.

I went with the budget 32" CST sandblasts as I'm going to Pismo and hit sand 1 time a year typically.

32" CSTs seem HUGE. Carcass is a solid 32" @ 9 psi and dwarf my stock bighorns and supposed 32" Aftershocks.

 

I have decided on 30"x15" STU 1300's in the rear and 1200's up front. I cannot decide between 10" or 12" wide wheel on the rear. Part of my dilemma is finding a 12" wheel is n to easy. Also, is it too wide? thoughts?

 

I am running the 1300-15" on 10" wide rims and love them.

 

A shop owner friend of mine can redrill the holes to make them fit on the x3. He did that along with some inexpensive china paddles that are close to the stu 1300's.
They work very well.