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New 2024 rumors anyone???

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I believe it’s only a few weeks until the on-line dealers meeting, just wondering Wtf anyone thinks is about to happen/change for the 2024 lineup. I’m waiting to buy a new XMR RR
What should change on the Mavs anyone dead against anything currently bugging them?
 
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I thought one of the benefits of the new suspension was that the wheel track didn't change as much through the travel? Might not get as much ratcheting it?
Lower A-Arm still moves on a radius, no way getting around that.
Main benefit of this "over the tire ball joint" design is keeping the camber at zero(or desired degree), better tire patch through the suspension cycle.
 
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What jumps out at me is just how close all of the cars really are. We are at a point in the history of SxS's where there is unlikely to be a day/night difference in the overall performance of one brand over another (except of course the Speed 😁). I think that the R's tranny is the closest thing to a major sea change (and I'm not at all discounting the fact that both Honda and Yamaha have been dabbling it that realm already), but even that is only an incremental change in the overall picture. Just think back to the vehicle that started the SxS genre not that many moons ago: the Yamaha Rhino!

If you have the money, this is a great time to be in the market for a performance SxS.
 
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Man that guy certainly does not drive well in the rocks. The pickle is a fun little trail that Suwa and the blm have set to close I believe in their latest nonsense. Then over to 7 mile rim and wipeout. Fun area where they are trying to close over 300 miles of trails. So far I have heard the people doing it are impressed with it crawling.
 
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I didn't see this video posted with a shock tune done on the R. Looks impressive at 80mph through the whoops.
If that is the video of Dustin Jones in his race R, those whoops along Shea Road are no joke. His car was cooking through them.
 
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It looks like the old advice to newbies "no donuts" may no longer apply to the R! Also interesting/concerning about the parts falling off. We now have the SxS guys that kept losing the cover to the coolant tank, and now this guy in the dunes losing the hood on the front. What's going on with that? I've never had anything fall off my X3.
 
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It’s not really the hood. The hood is on quite well. It’s actually the panel that covers up the fuse box and brake fluid etc. the latch really doesn’t latch all that great. It slides in the front and then has a plastic latch to catch and it doesn’t engage that great. A nice bent metal windshield will hold it on hah!
 
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I know it's not the "hood" per se; after all, these Can Am's don't have a "hood". But it's easier to say "hood" than "the panel that covers up the fuse box and brake fluid etc.". ;)
 
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I went to the off road expo show today at phx raceway and it keeps getting smaller . It sucks compared to a few yrs ago when it was at Westworld. Of course RideNow had there new Maverick R's loaded with brp accessories with some big price tags. Here's some pics from the show.
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Notice on the build list wheels and tires are for display only! Such a ride now move !
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Looks like the Mav R won.
The tranny is way more than an incremental change. It has been ridiculous that the manufacturers have been able to sell cars that approach 3000 lbs loaded with fuel and passengers, 200+ hp with a rubber band transmission. Spend 35 to 40 grand and be ready for a belt failure at any time! Rely on squeezing a rubber belt to get you home from remote locations with your family. We could melt belts on snowmobiles running in powder at 10 degrees and they weighed 600 lbs with us riding them. The laws of thermodynamics apply. Hats off to Canam for finally stepping up. I followed Speed utv progress until Robbie hit the fatal flaw of the goofy cvt. Even Polaris threw in the towel on their new work utv with a metal belt with lubrication for their cvt. Maverick r for the win!
 
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While a belt less trans is a great idea, it comes with more weight and complexity.

I’m not brand loyal at all. I had canams and now a new Polaris. I think the pro-r has the cvT clutch system nailed. I have almost 2000 miles in 10 months of owning one. From dunes to 100+ degree AZ desert I’m still on my original belt. I don’t drive like a little bitch either, only when Tim is hogging the trail and I can’t get around him.
 
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While a belt less trans is a great idea, it comes with more weight and complexity.

I’m not brand loyal at all. I had canams and now a new Polaris. I think the pro-r has the cvT clutch system nailed. I have almost 2000 miles in 10 months of owning one. From dunes to 100+ degree AZ desert I’m still on my original belt. I don’t drive like a little bitch either, only when Tim is hogging the trail and I can’t get around him.
If I had to guess the weight is probably why Can-Am stuck with a small displacement engine coupled to the DCT. I bet if Polaris starts looking at adding a turbocharger/intercooler to that 4 cylinder 2.0L as well as a DCT or sequential trans it’s going to push the Pro R up there north of 2500lbs so that limits them to the CVT coupled with the 4 cylinder. Pretty cool though you have the choice of choosing a machine with a DCT or if you prefer a big N/A engine you have that option as well though.
 
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I find it funny that people are now suggesting that a belt is better than a DCT tranny, since you can change a belt out in the field easily, and that a DCT tranny might not be able to handle high HP. Pretty sure that DCT trannies are in use with high HP engines (Corvette, anyone?), and also pretty sure that most, if not all, SxS owners carry a spare belt with them. Will Can Am's tranny hold up? Time will tell, but I would bet on the affirmative. Just my perspective.
 
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I don’t think it’s about what is “better” as that is a very subjective term. Reliability of the belt is known, the DCT is so far unknown. DCT can be made to handle whatever power you design it for. The question is how much was this DCT designed to hold? No one knows yet. The belt on stock power is generally reliable and easy to fix if you smoke one. The DCT reliability is unknown and obviously won’t be a bush fix if it blows. Time will tell.

The DCT from a strictly performance and feel perspective should be superior though.