I completely agree with everyone after realizing they werent invited, i can definitely see them being salty and acting like idiots. There is no hiding the tire is definitely hitting the knuckle, but they did complain about allot of dumb little things lol.

 

wow, a bunch of haters here. Its funny when yall gang together. Shows you are really BRP nut swingers and not really about what works and what does not.

 

No hater here, just pointing out the obvious. It takes watching only a couple of their videos to see exactly what they are all about.

Complained about the ride going slow over the chop with the suspension set as stiff as it can go... Well, duh. Let's see them drive over that same chop with a Polaris set up max stiff. First I've heard of the trans not being in the right gear in ANY situation. Too complicated? Really? High/Low is one button, and is shown on the instrument panel; seems pretty easy to me, but then again I am an engineer, so...

Again, it really only takes watching a couple of their videos to see exactly what their MO is. I have no problems with legitimate reviews/concerns about the R, as I really have no skin in the game since I'm not in the market for a new car (still paying on mine!). But the only legitimate issue they brought up was the tire rub, and that's the first time I've heard of it, so it makes me wonder a bit considering the source.

 

Im sorry to get off topic but im truly curious…does anyone know the real reason why rich rules left?

 

I don't, I just assumed it was because of the way Leo treated him. The stuff he said on camera... I can't imagine their interactions off camera.

 

I’ll just sit back and laugh until these cars are in real users hands. Not the one sided posers. Glamis will tell the story real soon all those can ams and rzr’s ripping up the dunes. And still less than 200 speeds is my assumption

 

I agree Glamis will tell us a lot.

What is "200 speeds" mean?

Tim

 

Who cares - if these idiots (SXS blog) had any credibility, then Can-Am would invite them. I stopped watching their irrelevant videos a long time ago.

 

I agree but Cleetus doesn't have any off road credibility either.

 

Well you missed the shit show bc Leo wants to be like Cletus so bad he literally started talking and acting like him LMFAO

 

They are getting free advertisements here!
I stopped watching their shows a year ago. Stupid and has no content of any value. in many of their episodes, they trashed whatever they were riding.
I own a Ram TRX, and a couple of years ago the 5th Gen Ram site was lit up because a low-life bought a TRX jumped it the first day, and trashed a 100K+ truck -- had many youtube hits!!
Many of these idiots are funded by # of hits on their shows on YouTube.
as my favorite actor (movie line) said, opinions are like assholes - everyone has one. and that is the case with morons like these idiots.
I will listen to and respect feedback from professionals (like many hardworking vendors that are investing in R&D time and $) on these vehicles.

 

They are getting free advertisements here!
I stopped watching their shows a year ago. Stupid and has no content of any value. in many of their episodes, they trashed whatever they were riding.
I own a Ram TRX, and a couple of years ago the 5th Gen Ram site was lit up because a low-life bought a TRX jumped it the first day, and trashed a 100K+ truck.
Many of these idiots are funded by # of hits on their shows on YouTube.
as my favorite actor (movie line) said, opinions are like assholes - everyone has one. and that is the case with morons like this.
I will listen to and respect feedback from professionals (like many hardworking vendors that are investing R&D time and $) on these vehicles.

That was Whistling Diesel, he trashed a Lamborghini or Ferrari in just a couple of days too. I don’t watch his videos but I still hear about them.

 

I think the line is: "opinions are like assholes; everyone has one, and they all stink".

 

Don’t have to be a National champ to gain my respect. If you can drive you can drive and that guy got in RG trophy truck and flat DROVE! I would listen to him before the clowns that just beat in shit with no real skill

 

This rub thing is curious with stock wheels and tires..... Didn't catch if they mentioned the PSI

 

From what I saw in the video, it looked pretty severe

 

Stock, it looks like less than an inch clearance. The desert racing R's have at least 3", using wheels with an obvious offset. Pics from the SSSS:
Stock:

Race:

 

Stock, it looks like less than an inch clearance. The desert racing R's have at least 3", using wheels with an obvious offset. Pics from the SSSS:
Stock:
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Race:
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Kind of defeats the purpose if you start adding that much offset.

 

Defeats "some" of the purpose maybe, but certainly not all. In Can Am's videos, they talk about the tall knuckle improving lateral distribution, roll center, AND steering geometry; the first 2 of which wouldn't be affected by the additional offset at all. And let's be honest, us sand guys already typically run 4+3 offsets up front (5+5 in rear).

 

Can sxsblog people provide actual/tangible proof besides a BS video that is not proof of anything? -- I could care less about the R failures if proven by qualified and intelligent people.
People Must have data that can be V&V'd before they opine!
They (sxsblog) are on public media and, therefore must prove their worth by providing tangible data with their proclamations.
Otherwise, this unqualified source of BS is another many other sources of propaganda that have been running out of control for a while!!!!!

 

Only con I see (other than looks) is a "possible" rubbing issue that is easily addressed with even a 1" offset (that will have a negligible effect on scrub). Is it for every type of riding or every location? Of course not; but that's certainly not a "con". That would be like claiming that the tall skinny tires and snorkels on the X3 MR is a "con" because it's not ideal for desert/dunes. I guess I'm just not seeing the multiple cons that you see.

 

I'd just run a 1" spacer and be done with it. I have extended lug bolts that should be perfect. That said, my permanent solution is to run ARP wheel studs and get those wonky lug bolts out of there.

 

They do not use bolts.
130a

 

This is most excellent news, thanks!

 

See where Whalen speed must be in the ecm they posted a dyno run of 261hp

 

I was there yesterday afternoon and watched it run on the dyno. John said he had it 261 out of it Saturday but the air quality wasn't as good yesterday and I saw 147.3.

 

Out of the factory needing spacers or offsets, I'm sure everyone feels the want to make it wider.

We've yet to hear the real story but not looking too promising.

 

 

Ooof. Looks like another loose nut and probably missing cotter pin. Can’t say I would be surprised if that’s what it was, I have had so many on my new X3. Check your nuts before riding people!

 

"Let's let all the air out of the tires and jump it as high as we can to fabricate something to complain about."

 

I guess everyone needs to fabricate 8-10 lbs in the sand for something to complain about.......or better yet, the "R" isn't meant for sand........LOL

 

Too be fair, a lot of us do run stock tires in the sand, and run at 8-10 lbs (but I get your point). I am disappointed that Can Am seems to have overlooked that clearance issue. Stock tires, regardless of how you use the car, will eventually be replaced, quite likely with a different brand/style, and with less than 1/2" of clearance, the rubbing may indeed turn out to be an issue.

 

I would bet someone is already working on aftermarket high clearance spindles.

 

Yep.
CT Raceworx

 

My guess bit will be gone next year

 

Both ! IMO It’s FAD Ideas. It’s a dirt car’ very little gain for the disadvantage that it brings. The taller the spindle carrier the beefier it’s needs to be. Perhaps if it was a rallying deal but not for most of our use

Double sheer the suspension beef the arms add a real rack and pinion move the center line out to clear the driver compartment so bigger tires can fit without wheels spacers

(I fell like I was measuring a nickel lid) This photo is with a 33 in tire, truthfully I didn’t measure the circumference to figure out the real high but no need you can tell it sucks

look at any of the top TT or class 1 - 10 out there no one is going that route seems BRP brought over a engineer from the airplane division

This Mason rig has no issue with control it’s slightly dated the new ones have portals

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The tall spindles will not be gone next year, you can count on that. Can Am may modify it to give more clearance, but the advantages that the design brings means that it will still be on their flagship car in the years to come, and may even make it down to the X3 eventually. The only disadvantage that I see is the clearance issue, which can (and likely will) be addressed. Interestingly, that video that you link shows a similar approach, with an oversize spindle raising the upper ball joint, in that case to be along the sidewall. Can Am's design takes it even further. Necessary? We'll see, but when push comes to shove, there is little that is "necessary", but quite a lot that is "better".

 

The tall spindles will not be gone next year, you can count on that. Can Am may modify it to give more clearance, but the advantages that the design brings means that it will still be on their flagship car in the years to come, and may even make it down to the X3 eventually. The only disadvantage that I see is the clearance issue, which can (and likely will) be addressed. Interestingly, that video that you link shows a similar approach, with an oversize spindle raising the upper ball joint, in that case to be along the sidewall. Can Am's design takes it even further. Necessary? We'll see, but when push comes to shove, there is little that is "necessary", but quite a lot that is "better".

WE will see I will give it two years than. Remember the twin I beam saw the shit

 

 

Love what these guys are doing

 

I can appreciate that review for what it is. Well done.