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Lots of good Info here
Again so glad no one lost a life.
As you say beating dead horse/stick.
RMATV will have most everything to replace what's bad.


Still lots of unanswered questions.
If you were going through that much fuel, why didn't you do some investigating?

And as you say you ride with a pumper helmet, do you not take it off? If it had been leaking at anytime you would smell raw fuel.
Common sense would say if you're using extra fuel, maybe do so maintenance or investigating.

Our friends 18 turbo RZR died on a trail, instead of trying to keep starting it, they did some investigating, found the fuel rail had broke and he had Polaris recall done, so no, the recall didn't work,
He ended up with. Small fire from the fumes, they put the fuel rail back together with zipties and a few other accessories and drove it back to camp.
Polaris did an investigation, because it was one of the few that were survivals.
He ended up with a new Turbo S out of the whole ordeal.
Barbara

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COMMON SENSE is not common.
 
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Lots of good Info here
Again so glad no one lost a life.
As you say beating dead horse/stick.
RMATV will have most everything to replace what's bad.


Still lots of unanswered questions.
If you were going through that much fuel, why didn't you do some investigating?

And as you say you ride with a pumper helmet, do you not take it off? If it had been leaking at anytime you would smell raw fuel.
Common sense would say if you're using extra fuel, maybe do so maintenance or investigating.

Our friends 18 turbo RZR died on a trail, instead of trying to keep starting it, they did some investigating, found the fuel rail had broke and he had Polaris recall done, so no, the recall didn't work,
He ended up with. Small fire from the fumes, they put the fuel rail back together with zipties and a few other accessories and drove it back to camp.
Polaris did an investigation, because it was one of the few that were survivals.
He ended up with a new Turbo S out of the whole ordeal.
Barbara

Sent from my moto z4 using Tapatalk

It's easy to have hindsight and say why not do this or that. For the fuel issue, I started questioning myself if I did fill it up all of the way plus I added a tuner so my thought was its burning fuel at a higher rate. It wasn't something that stood out to me. Just something I noticed in hindsight. I know I never smelled fuel when I got done riding or when we stopped for a long break (with helmets off). Never once! But it is a Max and I don't walk around sniffing around the engine. On a hot day I avoid more heat so we probably just got out and walked to shade or whatever.

When I was waiting for a few minutes for others to catch up, no I did not take off my helmet. Why would I? we often stop for a minute so give thumbs up and keep riding. What a hassle to remove helmets every time. Plus the pumper helmet actually helps keep us cool.

If it had died while riding I would've investigated for sure. But it died just at idle and in park so instant reaction is just start it up again. I bet your Rzr buddy had it die while riding which is totally different.

But bottom line is this. Maybe it didn't leak fuel the whole time. Maybe it was my imagination that I burned thru so much gas when I really just only filled it half way (doubtful). But one thing for certain, the plastic elbow broke or came off and caused a fire. There is absolutely no questioning that.

I just watched a youtube video where the guy had a new can am and it was on fire on a trail. Said it stalled, they started it and it caught fire. Just like me! Can am won't do a damn thing about it according to the owner! Everything is burnt so they are screwed. As much as some of you don't want to admit it, the X3 isn't that great of a machine! It works for me (for now) but I won't buy another. After redoing so many parts on mine I can see how its just not built like I expected.
 
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COMMON SENSE is not common.
Please enlighten me on the lack of common sense. Let's forget about the part that we saved the machine, we all had fire extinguishers (some of you don't I'm sure) and nobody got hurt. I can repair it all pretty easily. But let's talk about how I didn't use a crystal ball and predict this was about to happen? I'd love to hear your "wisdom".
 
It's easy to have hindsight and say why not do this or that. For the fuel issue, I started questioning myself if I did fill it up all of the way plus I added a tuner so my thought was its burning fuel at a higher rate. It wasn't something that stood out to me. Just something I noticed in hindsight. I know I never smelled fuel when I got done riding or when we stopped for a long break (with helmets off). Never once! But it is a Max and I don't walk around sniffing around the engine. On a hot day I avoid more heat so we probably just got out and walked to shade or whatever.

When I was waiting for a few minutes for others to catch up, no I did not take off my helmet. Why would I? we often stop for a minute so give thumbs up and keep riding. What a hassle to remove helmets every time. Plus the pumper helmet actually helps keep us cool.

If it had died while riding I would've investigated for sure. But it died just at idle and in park so instant reaction is just start it up again. I bet your Rzr buddy had it die while riding which is totally different.

But bottom line is this. Maybe it didn't leak fuel the whole time. Maybe it was my imagination that I burned thru so much gas when I really just only filled it half way (doubtful). But one thing for certain, the plastic elbow broke or came off and caused a fire. There is absolutely no questioning that.

I just watched a youtube video where the guy had a new can am and it was on fire on a trail. Said it stalled, they started it and it caught fire. Just like me! Can am won't do a damn thing about it according to the owner! Everything is burnt so they are screwed. As much as some of you don't want to admit it, the X3 isn't that great of a machine! It works for me (for now) but I won't buy another. After redoing so many parts on mine I can see how its just not built like I expected.
this is why you have insurance on your rides.....
 
The autoignition temp of gasoline is 536F. An exhaust system routinely runs hotter than that when playing hard in the dirt. A cat converter will run over 1200F and is a fairly large heat sink so will take awhile to cool down.
 
Wondering if this has happened to others. Here's my story from just a few days ago. (2018 xrs max)
Day before trip, installed a power vision tuner and a stock 91 octane tune. All went well.
1st day out it seems to go through fuel like 5 times faster than normal. I also noticed a month ago on my last trip that my fuel seemed to get sucked down quickly (before the tuner).

2nd day out. About 2 miles from camp on a 90degree day I stopped to wait for others. We were sitting at idle for about 4 minutes and the x3 stalled. I thought that was really weird as it never did that before. My first reaction was to just start it back up so I pressed start. I then heard a poof and then people yelling to get out. We got out right away and put the fire out within 60 seconds. Basically the elbow that connects to the fuel rail came off or burned off....not sure...but its off now.

the intercooler fan melted some. The wires going to the injectors are burned and a hose which I think is a coolant hose got burned but didn't leak. Fuel rail is burned some.

What happened (I believe) is the fuel rail elbow (connector) was leaking the day before which explains it going thru fuel so fast. Amazing that it didnt catch fire sooner if thats the case. Sitting at idle somehow made it just bust off and the X3 stalled. I pressed start and the fuel pump sprayed fuel on the muffler and POOF. There was fire on the ground so I know fuel sprayed out.

Side note: A Rzr guy pulled up and said something like "I thought can ams didn't catch on fire".

So my parts list is the engine wiring harness, intercooler fan and shroud, billet fuel rail with -an fitting, new injectors, possibly a few feet of new fuel line, any hoses that looked damaged, and anything I find when its apart.

Does anyone know if the engine wire harness is a real hassle? I just got a used 2018 off ebay and still sourcing other parts. It looks like I can take off the bed and intercooler and then have access to pretty much everything.

Does anyone have any theories how this could happen?
I heard this happening before from a tuner. To a brand new 2020 unit fuel rail is not connected properly from the factory. Caught fire on first ride. Good luck glad you made it out alive
 
The autoignition temp of gasoline is 536F. An exhaust system routinely runs hotter than that when playing hard in the dirt. A cat converter will run over 1200F and is a fairly large heat sink so will take awhile to cool down.
thats on a perfect lab scenario,if thats the case he will be on fire when was running,on my 30 years tuning cars i have never seen fuel catch on fire when fuel rails come off cause boost with poorly made brackets and fuels get pored over the turbo manifold at 1500*,and believe me have been dozens of them.but all fire i seen are evertime they crank the engine and a smidge of fuel leak from an inj oring.
 
thats on a perfect lab scenario,if thats the case he will be on fire when was running,on my 30 years tuning cars i have never seen fuel catch on fire when fuel rails come off cause boost with poorly made brackets and fuels get pored over the turbo manifold at 1500*,and believe me have been dozens of them.but all fire i seen are evertime they crank the engine and a smidge of fuel leak from an inj oring.
You cannot truly say that. If a car catches fire it has everything needed to start it off. Take a visit to your local burn unit and you will see people who were burned who said the exact same thing you said. How do i know this? I spent 2.5 months in the burn unit and saw the scariest things that had burned not only adults but little kids. Never underestimate the dangers of any fuel.
 
You cannot truly say that. If a car catches fire it has everything needed to start it off. Take a visit to your local burn unit and you will see people who were burned who said the exact same thing you said. How do i know this? I spent 2.5 months in the burn unit and saw the scariest things that had burned not only adults but little kids. Never underestimate the dangers of any fuel.
Yea,i have spray brake cleaner to remove oils near relays put the switch on and boom, thankfully only a scary moment,its so easy to have an accident.but what i mean most times some kind of electricity is involved to start a fire.and the brushes of a starter motor are a giant spark generator.what we learn by time on drag races is if engine suddenly dies,dont try to start ,first open the hood and check for fuel leaks,loose battery making contact maybe on the hood,tools over the engine or battery,etc, .but is good to know,one new thing to check out on our can ams
 
It all comes down to shit happens! No one got hurt so try to learn from it and thankfully you had a fire extinguisher or it could have been a total loss, a fire extinguisher is one of the first things I bought. I think the 2019s intercoolers are bigger, but I have a intercooler and fan shroud if you want to upgrade.
 
Wondering if this has happened to others. Here's my story from just a few days ago. (2018 xrs max)
Day before trip, installed a power vision tuner and a stock 91 octane tune. All went well.
1st day out it seems to go through fuel like 5 times faster than normal. I also noticed a month ago on my last trip that my fuel seemed to get sucked down quickly (before the tuner).

2nd day out. About 2 miles from camp on a 90degree day I stopped to wait for others. We were sitting at idle for about 4 minutes and the x3 stalled. I thought that was really weird as it never did that before. My first reaction was to just start it back up so I pressed start. I then heard a poof and then people yelling to get out. We got out right away and put the fire out within 60 seconds. Basically the elbow that connects to the fuel rail came off or burned off....not sure...but its off now.

the intercooler fan melted some. The wires going to the injectors are burned and a hose which I think is a coolant hose got burned but didn't leak. Fuel rail is burned some.

What happened (I believe) is the fuel rail elbow (connector) was leaking the day before which explains it going thru fuel so fast. Amazing that it didnt catch fire sooner if thats the case. Sitting at idle somehow made it just bust off and the X3 stalled. I pressed start and the fuel pump sprayed fuel on the muffler and POOF. There was fire on the ground so I know fuel sprayed out.

Side note: A Rzr guy pulled up and said something like "I thought can ams didn't catch on fire".

So my parts list is the engine wiring harness, intercooler fan and shroud, billet fuel rail with -an fitting, new injectors, possibly a few feet of new fuel line, any hoses that looked damaged, and anything I find when its apart.

Does anyone know if the engine wire harness is a real hassle? I just got a used 2018 off ebay and still sourcing other parts. It looks like I can take off the bed and intercooler and then have access to pretty much everything.

Does anyone have any theories how this could happen?
This is what is left of my son's 2020 Can Am Maverick. Burned to a crisp four years ago, and took with it our entire 30x40 shop only nine months old, and my husband's 1997 Ford F-350 "show truck" which had won awards and been in Diesel World Magazine. Cause of the fire was never pinpointed, but the Can Am was one of three possible starting points. The Can Am was three months old, only had GAP insurance because the dealer told us that's all that was required. Lesson learned.
 
Wondering if this has happened to others. Here's my story from just a few days ago. (2018 xrs max)
Day before trip, installed a power vision tuner and a stock 91 octane tune. All went well.
1st day out it seems to go through fuel like 5 times faster than normal. I also noticed a month ago on my last trip that my fuel seemed to get sucked down quickly (before the tuner).

2nd day out. About 2 miles from camp on a 90degree day I stopped to wait for others. We were sitting at idle for about 4 minutes and the x3 stalled. I thought that was really weird as it never did that before. My first reaction was to just start it back up so I pressed start. I then heard a poof and then people yelling to get out. We got out right away and put the fire out within 60 seconds. Basically the elbow that connects to the fuel rail came off or burned off....not sure...but its off now.

the intercooler fan melted some. The wires going to the injectors are burned and a hose which I think is a coolant hose got burned but didn't leak. Fuel rail is burned some.

What happened (I believe) is the fuel rail elbow (connector) was leaking the day before which explains it going thru fuel so fast. Amazing that it didnt catch fire sooner if thats the case. Sitting at idle somehow made it just bust off and the X3 stalled. I pressed start and the fuel pump sprayed fuel on the muffler and POOF. There was fire on the ground so I know fuel sprayed out.

Side note: A Rzr guy pulled up and said something like "I thought can ams didn't catch on fire".

So my parts list is the engine wiring harness, intercooler fan and shroud, billet fuel rail with -an fitting, new injectors, possibly a few feet of new fuel line, any hoses that looked damaged, and anything I find when its apart.

Does anyone know if the engine wire harness is a real hassle? I just got a used 2018 off ebay and still sourcing other parts. It looks like I can take off the bed and intercooler and then have access to pretty much everything.

Does anyone have any theories how this could happen?
 

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Wondering if this has happened to others. Here's my story from just a few days ago. (2018 xrs max)
Day before trip, installed a power vision tuner and a stock 91 octane tune. All went well.
1st day out it seems to go through fuel like 5 times faster than normal. I also noticed a month ago on my last trip that my fuel seemed to get sucked down quickly (before the tuner).

2nd day out. About 2 miles from camp on a 90degree day I stopped to wait for others. We were sitting at idle for about 4 minutes and the x3 stalled. I thought that was really weird as it never did that before. My first reaction was to just start it back up so I pressed start. I then heard a poof and then people yelling to get out. We got out right away and put the fire out within 60 seconds. Basically the elbow that connects to the fuel rail came off or burned off....not sure...but its off now.

the intercooler fan melted some. The wires going to the injectors are burned and a hose which I think is a coolant hose got burned but didn't leak. Fuel rail is burned some.

What happened (I believe) is the fuel rail elbow (connector) was leaking the day before which explains it going thru fuel so fast. Amazing that it didnt catch fire sooner if thats the case. Sitting at idle somehow made it just bust off and the X3 stalled. I pressed start and the fuel pump sprayed fuel on the muffler and POOF. There was fire on the ground so I know fuel sprayed out.

Side note: A Rzr guy pulled up and said something like "I thought can ams didn't catch on fire".

So my parts list is the engine wiring harness, intercooler fan and shroud, billet fuel rail with -an fitting, new injectors, possibly a few feet of new fuel line, any hoses that looked damaged, and anything I find when its apart.

Does anyone know if the engine wire harness is a real hassle? I just got a used 2018 off ebay and still sourcing other parts. It looks like I can take off the bed and intercooler and then have access to pretty much everything.

Does anyone have any theories how this could happen?
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