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Heading to the Pioneer takeover next weekend in Tennessee. Stock Bighorns - how much water am I safe driving in/through? Did not find much on this searching the forums.
Anything I can do (besides a snorkel kit) like run vent lines?
Love riding the Dunes but this trip has me a bit nervous. Both buddies going with me have Pioneer 1000's. Never done rocks before and we are hitting something called "top of world" trail.
I think I will be using Low for the 1st time.....any advice from you rock and mud guys will be appreciated.
 

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It seems that I wouldn't want to go higher than the air filter that is in the rear wheel well. It has a dirt release nipple on it that I have never heard to be sealed enough to keep water out if submerged. Maybe it is ok if you put it through a deep water hole for a minute or two but I wouldn't want to submerge it for too long.

Short of snorkeling everything, you might as well rake your chances on leaving it alone and be mindful of how deep something is.

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clutch openings are under turbocharger and behind muffler
so air filter height is about as high as possible
 

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Sooooo I’m pretty sure you just called me a redneck.... we ride there all the time. Don’t worry about the mud there’s usually a way around the it. The trail you are talking about has some challenging parts but nothing that can’t be done. I’d be surprised if the many pioneers make it though. Around here most pioneers stay on the farm and strictly for work. Water is a non issue unless it’s poured the rain. Keep in mind that in our area 90% of the trails are either up the mountain or down the mountain. Water can’t pool up on inclines. Windrock is an awesome place to ride but they check coolers for alcohol and do not put up with any crap. They will kick you out if you don’t follow their rules. Have fun . Many YouTube videos to watch if you want to see what you are getting into


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don't miss riding the water trail on west side of 75. trails much better on that side. if have time mosey on down stinking creek road and then davis creek road into tackett creek. best trails and riding in etn.
 

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Heading to the Pioneer takeover next weekend in Tennessee. Stock Bighorns - how much water am I safe driving in/through? Did not find much on this searching the forums.
Anything I can do (besides a snorkel kit) like run vent lines?
Love riding the Dunes but this trip has me a bit nervous. Both buddies going with me have Pioneer 1000's. Never done rocks before and we are hitting something called "top of world" trail.
I think I will be using Low for the 1st time.....any advice from you rock and mud guys will be appreciated.
Hope this is not too late to reply. I bought the 64" XMR for the purpose of living in mud and water. Last summer I had the X3 in water so deep I couldn't see the stick shift and the water mark on my shirt was at my chest.... :) Nothing is as fun as muddin'.

Best advice I can give is don't tear into every water and mud hole like an angry bull, slow and steady is the best way, for many reasons, 1) you have no clue what is hiding under the water or mud, could be a stump, log, rock. 2) if you power into the mud hole and get stopped, you are pretty much pooched and will have to get towed out, if you go in slow and steady and if the bike stops, you can easily back out. 3) if you tear into the hole there is a good chance you are going to leave ruts for the next guy which sucks for them.

Before you go into a water hole pick a good line, sometimes that is hard to do but if you aren't sure, let the more experienced drivers go through first, or let the rigs that are built for mud go through first. 4 Low tends to be the magic setting for every thing mud but remember not to goose the throttle if you are using 4 Low. Old timer once told me if you are using 4 low before you go into the hole, you probably shouldn't go into the hole

Buy a bandana for your mouth and nose, you are going to breath in lots of mud and dirt.

Stock bighorns are the jack of all trades when it comes to trail riding, they are not the best at every thing but they are not the worst at anything. I had Bighorns on my quad and I went through everything the purpose built mud quads went through, with a little effort.

Have fun.
 

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Sooooo I’m pretty sure you just called me a redneck.... we ride there all the time. Don’t worry about the mud there’s usually a way around the it. The trail you are talking about has some challenging parts but nothing that can’t be done. I’d be surprised if the many pioneers make it though. Around here most pioneers stay on the farm and strictly for work. Water is a non issue unless it’s poured the rain. Keep in mind that in our area 90% of the trails are either up the mountain or down the mountain. Water can’t pool up on inclines. Windrock is an awesome place to ride but they check coolers for alcohol and do not put up with any crap. They will kick you out if you don’t follow their rules. Have fun . Many YouTube videos to watch if you want to see what you are getting into


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Around here we call them "Granny" trails .. ;)
 

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Best advice I can give is don't tear into every water and mud hole like an angry bull, slow and steady is the best way, for many reasons, 1) you have no clue what is hiding under the water or mud, could be a stump, log, rock. 2) if you power into the mud hole and get stopped, you are pretty much pooched and will have to get towed out, if you go in slow and steady and if the bike stops, you can easily back out. 3) if you tear into the hole there is a good chance you are going to leave ruts for the next guy which sucks for them.

Before you go into a water hole pick a good line, sometimes that is hard to do but if you aren't sure, let the more experienced drivers go through first, or let the rigs that are built for mud go through first. 4 Low tends to be the magic setting for every thing mud but remember not to goose the throttle if you are using 4 Low. Old timer once told me if you are using 4 low before you go into the hole, you probably shouldn't go into the hole
Some excellent points here.
 

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did you go yet?

where in cheeseland are you from?

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Maybe I don't qualify as a "red neck" cause I fail to see the fun in this.

Now if I was in Dustin, Logan & crews shoes, Can Am giving me cars to go tear up, no need to worry about repairing or having to clean them, maybe, a couple decades ago I'd probably be all in. But there's no way I'd do this to my car.


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Glad you enjoyed it ! I love Windrock. The stuck pioneer should not have entered that mudhole......you can tell its too much/too deep and rutted out just by looking at it.
I saw where you wrote that you would be trying low gear ! lol......I want to try high gear ! Its low gear 95% of the time and 4x4 for 75%.


Always enter mud holes that don't look bad like the one in the pic slowly in low and 4x4.....if in doubt get out, grab a long stick and use it as a depth finder.....you will see long sticks laying next to most larger mud areas/holes. You can drive for days and only make it 100 miles or less.....I drove 10 hours straight and was at less than 50 miles on the odometer.

Did you notice the hundreds on grave markers and crosses all over the trails ? some butt pucker trails for sure.....some downright scary don't make a mistake trails.

Post more pics !!
We brought a group of 25 out on our last trip there.....I watched a 12 year old girl go everywhere we did on her built 4 wheeler.....she was fearless and badass... and could drive ! I was super impressed with her
 
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