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Excellent thanks! I hope that is accurate that would be good. The Wildcat has a very low 3.1 ratio which is far from a performance ratio, great for top speed as I can get up to about 90mph but it is at a distinct disadvantage to both Polaris and Can-am which have more performance oriented diff ratios in the 3.5 to 3.6 range.

Rather than build a stronger diff their "solution" has been to go with numerically lower ratios which place much less stress on the housing. This causes them to take a hit on torque to the ground versus the competition. It would be smarter to build a stronger diff IMO but oh well.
 

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I think the Rhino has a 3.6 or 3.66 ratio, maybe a 3.7. The Maverick front diff bolts into a sub frame, so that makes it even easier to bolt in something like a Rhino diff.
 

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theres enough people around with different knowledge , on diffrent things to really give this a valiant attempt! i remember a thread on commander forum about what do you do for a living. and i remember some people was like friggin nuclear powerplant operators! and some where engineers . (which we need) , some could run c.a.d. machines! ICKY for example is a great fabricator so do you see what i mean we all posess some type of skill that may help this come to light. even if it has to change hands or get passed around a little, if we got enough people on board im sure theres enough knowledge here to do so!! sorry im not much help cuz all i know is how to weld , cant say im much of fab worker . i can weld pretty good tho. and i have a fair amount of knowledge in gear ratios simply becuz of drag and street racing back in the day. so if we can find a diff thats pretty close ratio wise, you can always adjust accordingly with tire size . for example you could run a 30 inch big horn (which are really 28 inch) in the rear an the stockers on the front and achieve the correct gearing give or take! but i think you all get the point!
 

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I wasn't asking for purposes of diff swap I was curious if they had a performance gear in in which would help it support larger tires without killing its acceleration. There is no evidence that I know of that the Can-am diffs are weak, and that new Maverick rear diff especially looks sturdy. I do not know if anyone has "broken" the front diff on a Commander or not, maybe someone here would know.
 

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For me lower gearing is better....better in the rocks, better for torque to the ground and better throttle response. Yes it will cut down top speed but how freaking fast is too fast? Even the average mid 70 speeds these machines are doing now would be all but in survivable if something caused a tumble. Just my $.02
 

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One thing you will find coming from another brand (any other brand IMO) is that the Can-Am driveline is stout in comparison. They did try to use the ATV rear diff (which has proven to take a lot of sh** and abuse in the ATV's) in the commander which proved to be a bit weak for that application, but it sounds like the rear diff has now been upgraded in the Maverick. The fuse in the driveline on the ATV's has always been the driveshafts. Pretty sure the UTV's share that characteristic.

The Commander and Maverick also share the same front diff as the ATV's. Failure of the front diff in the ATV's is rare if not unheard of. I'm sure there have been a couple popped in the Commanders but overall I think it has proven to be a sturdy diff in a UTV application as well.

Can-Am stock axels also tend to be very strong compared to the stock axels on other brands. Watch some of Ostacrusiers videos on you tube and you will see some of the abuse that the Can-Am mud bikes go through. I would be willing to bet almost all of the bikes in his Vids are running a stock driveline, turning big tires at full throttle without an issue. I can say that with confidence because that is how my Can-Am atv's have been driven as well. WFO with 31" outlaws.
 

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well clearly i was talking bout swapping em out! again ill try the qe but if that doesnt make me happy ill move on to the next step and tryin to get real custom
 

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For me lower gearing is better....better in the rocks, better for torque to the ground and better throttle response. Yes it will cut down top speed but how freaking fast is too fast? Even the average mid 70 speeds these machines are doing now would be all but in survivable if something caused a tumble. Just my $.02
100% agree, I want the lower gearing as well. My Wildcat would be much more "powerful" if it had 3.6's in the diffs instead of 3.1's. I have been racing all my life and nothing considered "performance" ever has gearing that high. Economy vehicle yes, performance vehicles, no.
 

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I heard the arctic car mud pro diff has 3.6
At one time they even had 4.10's but people were breaking the diffs so they have been steadily lowering the gear ratios to prevent too much side loading from exploding the cases. To me thats a piss poor solution I would beef up the cases instead. They need to ditch the ATV parts and design new components for the SxS, until they do that they aren't going anywhere IMO.
 

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You are correct 3:6:1. Its in the operator's book.

Dusting this off one more time, can someone verify FOR SURE the front and rear diff of the Maverick are both 3.6 ratio
 
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