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Our search function sucks. I don't remember reading about led replacements, just hid. I'm interested as well!

 

I bought a decent led light bar for 118.00 shipped off Amazon and it washes out the stock headlights , if the bulbs were 50 per pair , you're basically there with all 4 . Just a thought. I was watching one 42 inch light bar and the other day it went on sale for 105.00 shipped. Just FYI . Tim

 

Get some and try them. I'm curious to see what they look like

 

I searched quite a bit and didn't find much except for light bars for LED's and HID's for the stock lights.

I figure I could at least give them a shot, can't be much worse than stock

 

I install these in cars and trucks a lot. I use Race-Sport. They're a 5K color and a HUGE difference, even in a new Honda Accord Crosstour.

 

Do you know if they make the 9005 LED bulbs in different wattages? I think the lows are 35w and 55w for the highs from the factory.

 

I'm interested. I would like to find some LED replacements. I just don't have room for a light bar. Can't mount it under the roof due to line of sight and do to much woods riding to mount one up top. I do have some LED spot lights that I am going to mount on the front bumper though.

 

Boy they are proud of these led conversions! 600$ to replace stock lights, you can buy some rigids that'll out power them hands down.
I've had good luck with my DDM HID's and for 200$ guess that's where I'll be headed, can still add a light bar for 400$ and have way more light

 

Can you run a light bar off of your accessory plug behind the dash or should you go through a relay?

 

you need a relay.

 

Ive been running my 40" off the accessory plug for close to a year and no issues yet. You don't need a relay

 

It is safer and easier on switches to use a relay.

 

Maybe but you still don't "need" one. Do a search and you'll see tons of guys on her running light bars without relays.

 

I'm running 4 DDM hids and a 30in light bar

You can get DDM hids for about $50/pair so $100 to do all 4 and worth it imo even with a lightbar

 

Is 50$ doing 35 watt in all 4 lights? (For some reason I had 100$ in mind a set) if you put 35w in all 4, do they light up enough to not need 55 watt?

 

Yeah you don't wanna run 55s in that small of a housing you'll be at serious risk of melting something, the 35s get warm

Ymmv

 

I've used hid's both on my Commander and now my Max. Both were 35w, the difference on the high or low beam housing is the positions angle the housing are made. For sure the HID put out way more light for the money.

 

Thanks for the advice, I worried about the heat as well but seemed to have no problem in my ATV but worried on the max.
Did you use the "extension cables" to get the ballasts under the hood or was there enough wire?

on a side note, just notice that DDM Tuning 35 watt HID kits are 30$ a set!

 

I did buy them but I didn't need to use them, but I guess it will depend on where your putting the ballasts. Here's where I put mind.

 

They're def worth $30/set I put off getting a light bar all last season only because I thought they did so good, I bought a lightbar cause I'm greedy with lighting lol


Use the o rings off the stock bulbs, they seem to seal perfect

 

I had "80" watt bulbs in my Grizzly lights and there were no heat issues.

In general, I think they run a lot cooler than HID and Halogen lights.

Here are some of the bulbs I have been considering, and is the same ebay seller that me and many other guys on the Grizzly forum bought.

80 watt- 2 x 9005 9145 High Power 80W CREE XB D LED Fog Driving Light Bulbs White 6000K | eBay

30 watt- 9005 Fog Driving Daytime Running Light CREE XBD White High Power 30W 720 LM LED | eBay

High and low beams, respectively.

 

I had "80" watt bulbs in my Grizzly lights and there were no heat issues.

In general, I think they run a lot cooler than HID and Halogen lights.

Here are some of the bulbs I have been considering, and is the same ebay seller that me and many other guys on the Grizzly forum bought.

80 watt- 2 x 9005 9145 High Power 80W CREE XB D LED Fog Driving Light Bulbs White 6000K | eBay

30 watt- 9005 Fog Driving Daytime Running Light CREE XBD White High Power 30W 720 LM LED | eBay

High and low beams, respectively.

You're wasting your money if you care about actually improving the performance in your lighting, those "80w" led bulbs only put out 1-1300 lumens that's about the same if not less than the stock 9005 bulbs

35w DDM Tuning Hid's put out 3200/3500 lumens PER BULB, slap 4 of them in there and you've got roughly 13,000+ lumens out of the stock projectors for less than $100


Edit if you want the most light shoot for the 4300 or 4500k color any higher than that and you're just throwing away light for blue ricer hids, I'd say 5k as a max cause my buddy has 5k ddms and they seem to do pretty good, I'm running 4500k

 

check out the hid and led lights from these guys Light-Pros | The Trusted Source For HID Kits, High Powered LED Flashlights, and Seat Belts! , I have had good luck with there hid kits in my truck and maverick. If you notice there led bulbs have big heat sinks lots of light makes a lot of heat.

 

i ordered these , cant wait to try it

Wholesale Product Snapshot Product name is High bright 9005 HB3 LED Headlight Cree LED head lamp for car 50w 2800lm 9005 HB3 auto head light bulb DC12V white

 

�� anyone try them?

Still leaning on HID seems tried and proven

 

I installed HID's and ended up taking them out. They had lots of hot and cold spots, where the stock bulbs had even light without any hot spots. They were cheap Hid's and i dont know if that makes a difference . I also noticed I got the bulb in but not correctly and just that little but of slightly crooked made hot spots and cold spots. I question maybe the projector lense is very sensitive to bulb placement and maybe the fact the light is basically running perpendicular in the hid to the filament on the stock bulb. IDK. JMHO . Tim

 

Anyway..

What affect do the "projector" lenses have on normal light bulbs exactly? I wonder if it would channel the flood pattern of these LED's to more of a narrow spread better suited for long distance visibility.

As I said before, I'm not a fan of HID's, they take time to warm up, don't like being bumped around too much, and get really hot. And how long the ballasts will last is always anyone's guess where the LED's are plug and play, and then you don't have to worry about em again.

 

I had the LED bulbs in my 700 grizzly also-way better than stock. I ran a light bar on my rad relocate kit so I wasn't worried about them being flood only pattern.

As far as the hids go I went with them on the maverick. I ride with Kessler89 and his seemed to last through quite a bit of mud/water/vibration on the xmr before he swapped them over to the mav. That sold me on the DDM tuning setup I now run in my own machine.

I might get some LED flood bulbs for the low beams to experiment after I get my light bar bought. But for your money the HIDs are the ticket.

As far as light bars and relays go: its a matter of opinion. I personally believe you should use one for a "piece of mind". Keeps from overloading a circuit like the cigarette plug-u might need to use it at the same time for something. Changing a fuse isn't a big deal if it pops but kneeling down to pop open the fuse block, in mud or slop for some of the mud guys, might be an issue.

 

I keep reading about hid non durability and sit back and laugh, my lows came from my xmr so they're pushing 2 years old now, they spent a ton of time under water, with outlaw2s slinging everything under the sun at the housings for a year and another year in my maverick no issues

I guess I do math different and have factory freaks in my hi/lows and the set of ddms in my car still going strong 5 years after I installed them



Dumping 3x more light than a led bulb for less money

 

i agree! When I first started using DDM I was skeptical and have since put them in 3 wheelers as well, but I don't have any prolonged warm up time and my hi/low kit works perfectly after 3 years in my quad. If LED bulbs were economical and could produce the light that HID's did I'd consider it, but just can't see spending 600$ to convert my max when HID are 60$

 

Found this on led headlight conversions. Notice from about 1:45 to 2:00 they did not recommend led bulbs.