I agree. I would like to see a exhaust that was not 1000.00 for some stainless piping, and that made a minimum of 5+hp. So far I am not impressed with any of them. I am going to do a cat delete and leave the rest stock.They were a few years ago when I was in to it. If there's something better now then great. Doesn't mean barkers are bad, just need this is an ever evolving sport.