I hate to say it but this is my second can am, and I have never had to take a clutch apart. So all that I know is just from guys like yourselves. Sounds like this is confirming what I was thinking and I am going to have to look into it more and ask to see the failure. I was also going to call BRP about the extended 6 month warranty on the clutch that some received via letter. I would much rather pay $50 over actual cost but if I had no warranty I know I would be fighting it. And about saying there wrong in a nice way... its hard sometimes... I was already doing it as I told them " When they replace that on time use bolt in the clutch, I will wait and extra day for the lock tight to dry to pick it up, I don't want this to cause another problem as the next place im going riding will be 3x harder to recover this from." They told me the had to order a new cam, and that's all they said there were ordering so I hinted the bolt. What's the orange rubber looking piece behind the spring? It was melted some. I was not able to get the cover off with the clutch pushing on it. so that's all I saw (though I blew a belt). When I get there I will talk about failure, look at parts list, and after I pick it up, pull into a station and pull the cover off and look inside. I have the plastics at home so it will only take a minute. The guy here are nice and its the nicest dealer of the four in a 2hr radius. I have never had service from any of them tho Thanks Guys