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So belt life ranges and of course depending on driver and conditions 2500 to 5000 miles +. Given your belt lasts as long as these numbers state you'll be far outside of your factory warrenty and might end up paying for a clutch cover out of pocket. A new 1000 RZR has a metal housing for it's clutch and belt area, and CAN-AM has stopped putting plastic covers on their snowmobiles but on all Commanders and Mavericks they are PLASTIC. As one specialist stated " it's like a car tire when it blows, it destroys all that is in that wheel well area " refering to when a belt go's or brakes. So why would anyone put plastic around a area that will fail one day that has a high chance of being useless after belt fails and responce time is next to nothing - you will not be able to prevent this from happening. This i understand was a big problem for all sports mobiles and the maverick is designed with plastic and no protection from when belt brakes.

interested in any comments Sorry folks here has very little to do with driver. Having said that belt broke on flat road no mud, and was doing over 30 miles per hour in high gear.
 

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Damn you Can Am! Damn you!

Lucky you, Heat is not a concern if the part that dissipates heat better is prone to fail! Picture a grenade going off and what's left hardly could be put back together and when cover is not on, sand/dirt affects clutch area, i'm sure something that is bad for moving parts, seals, and bearings. I'm thinking rather than figuring out what could be changed to improve the Can-Am product we should make alot of excuses and right off that parts on a 18000.00~26000.00 UTV brake easily and dangerously. I've heard that people think polaris makes a product that is in the shop more than other manufactures and that dealers enjoy the profit made at the owners expense. In my view polaris has been the solid UTV - jumping, rock crawling, sand, motorcross whatever and in alittle over a month the dealer has had my CAN-AM more than i've had it and the warranty BRP has for this machine starts out not covering their bad design and materials. Mabey the best case scenario is to sell my maverick here where everone loves this equiptment regardless of what is apparently a yellow lemon.
Dear Mr. bulldogs101,
in 2014 Can-Am added better ventilation to help with heating issues, not to mention that in the r&d days this should have been addressed and designed with heat freindly metal and all past experiences with snowmobiles BRP has modified their covers to metal due to damage done to belt covers. I am not on here to bad talk BRP or CAN-AM, IF i continue to own a product of theirs and/or continue to ride a BRP bike i would hope intelligent criticism of a unsafe and bad designed product would be welcomed and reflected in action on their part. At this point they have alot of catching up to do.
 

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My stock belt lasted about 550 miles, it blew because I was pushing it too hard...not letting it cool down enough. When the belt broke, it didn't hurt plastic cover. Not sure how you equate that to a tire blowing up...

In my view polaris has been the solid UTV - jumping, rock crawling, sand, motorcross whatever and in alittle over a month the dealer has had my CAN-AM more than i've had it and the warranty BRP has for this machine starts out not covering their bad design and materials. Mabey the best case scenario is to sell my maverick here where everone loves this equiptment regardless of what is apparently a yellow lemon.
Maybe you should get the Polaris instead, I'm sure you'll have way less problems.
 

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Snowmobiles run in the snow.... That's a lot cooler, they can get away with running an aluminum cover. Troll

Really? I'm not a expert! mabey you are but this came from the dealer mabey he's the troll? Regardless the reason he said that was not because BRP thought "oh it's snow let's bless him with aluminum", they did it because belts were damaging the cover and they felt the best way to prevent normal opperation problems they could improve with the materials used. If you have a diffrence of opinion, it's not me you disagree with it's a authorized dealer sir. I said it here because I would take that as a lesson learned and either sheild the plastic that you like or make the cover stronger and intergrade better cooling because of the change.
 

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My stock belt lasted about 550 miles, it blew because I was pushing it too hard...not letting it cool down enough. When the belt broke, it didn't hurt plastic cover. Not sure how you equate that to a tire blowing up...



Maybe you should get the Polaris instead, I'm sure you'll have way less problems.
Is on the table for sure, but as a CAN-AM owner now and not out of the woods with what i'm dealing with now i'm still trying to make my CAN-AM a better machine. On this last ride when my belt broke a POOPOO was there, and i had given that guy so much POOP about how he was going to need the CAN-AM to get him back home and he better keep up with us. I broke down 1 Min after unloading it off trailer driving down flat dirt road going to where we were going to ride. He like other POOPOO's ive seen was jumping and pushing his hard and made it back after a day of riding that way, in which i guess he rides it like that all the time. It made my day though even with mine broke down and who knows what was to happen later with it he still said he would rather have a CAN-AM because of the style and comfort. Everyone that was a witness to mine breaking thought CAN-AM should make corrections to what is used or placing a guard to prevent blown belt from damaging any thing else. - Still in the CAN-AM camp just frustrated with how much i have'nt had my machine.
socalmav - Dealer again was explaining why cover was destroyed and used the tire blowing up as a illustration of what happened when belt broke. i've got to agree that belt did cause damage like a tire would to the wheel well of a vehicle if it had blown up on the high way as you were driving. The bottom of the case had a 2 inch hole about 10 inches long almost the exact width of the belt and i was going about 40 MPH. :furious:
 

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Are you sure the popo has a metal belt cover?


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No I am not sure it does or not, did not like the dealership here that sold the POOPOO so did'nt look into them much. Guy riding with us said his was metal and it did look like it from my veiw point under my CAN-AM working on it. So if they are PLASTIC BOOO to the POOPOO's too! but if they have a guard inside of the cover would save the equiptment minus the belt of course. Like i said I Like the CAN-AM but if it's breaking all the time and it's not my driving or the trail i've got a issue with the product, and would rather upgrade materials like alot of people here have done. I seem to have the worst luck to date, i have'nt seen many instances like mine.
Just left the POOPOO dealer here and can say with 100% certainty - POOPOO covers on all stock units regardless of model are PLASTIC, the POOPOO i was riding with must have upgraded his because the stock ones are black plastic and his was ALUMINUM or a really fancy sticker placement that threw me off as I was working on my broken belt problem and dark was soon to make things even worse. So to finish off thoughts about plastic covers on SXS - If they are working and last they are great but in my case BOOOOO broke fast and beyond repair.
 

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Is on the table for sure, but as a CAN-AM owner now and not out of the woods with what i'm dealing with now i'm still trying to make my CAN-AM a better machine. On this last ride when my belt broke a POOPOO was there, and i had given that guy so much POOP about how he was going to need the CAN-AM to get him back home and he better keep up with us. I broke down 1 Min after unloading it off trailer driving down flat dirt road going to where we were going to ride. He like other POOPOO's ive seen was jumping and pushing his hard and made it back after a day of riding that way, in which i guess he rides it like that all the time. It made my day though even with mine broke down and who knows what was to happen later with it he still said he would rather have a CAN-AM because of the style and comfort. Everyone that was a witness to mine breaking thought CAN-AM should make corrections to what is used or placing a guard to prevent blown belt from damaging any thing else. - Still in the CAN-AM camp just frustrated with how much i have'nt had my machine.
socalmav - Dealer again was explaining why cover was destroyed and used the tire blowing up as a illustration of what happened when belt broke. i've got to agree that belt did cause damage like a tire would to the wheel well of a vehicle if it had blown up on the high way as you were driving. The bottom of the case had a 2 inch hole about 10 inches long almost the exact width of the belt and i was going about 40 MPH. :furious:
Have you owned a SxS before, or is this your first one? Maybe you're just having a string of bad luck with yours. I know one of the other members on this forum says he's had issues from day one. Yet, others (myself included) ride the piss out of their Mavericks and have minimal issues. The bottom line is, there is no "perfect" UTV out there, they all have some sort of potential hiccup. Before I bought the Maverick, I researched all the different ones as this is my first SxS. I bought the Maverick knowing there was a potential clutch problem, but was willing to take that chance because I've owned BRP product before and know the overall quality. IMO, the Rotax engine alone out weighs the crappy tie rods, or plastic belt cover, or clutch bolt recall....

My suggestion is:
1) Go the the poo-poo forum and see what kind of problems they are having, (up to 47 pages now).
2) Use this forum to research. Then it's up to you to upgrade, modify, and/or reinforce stuff... Or leave it stock as is.
3) Good luck....and BTW: no need to double post the same topic.
 

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Is on the table for sure, but as a CAN-AM owner now and not out of the woods with what i'm dealing with now i'm still trying to make my CAN-AM a better machine. On this last ride when my belt broke a POOPOO was there, and i had given that guy so much POOP about how he was going to need the CAN-AM to get him back home and he better keep up with us. I broke down 1 Min after unloading it off trailer driving down flat dirt road going to where we were going to ride. He like other POOPOO's ive seen was jumping and pushing his hard and made it back after a day of riding that way, in which i guess he rides it like that all the time. It made my day though even with mine broke down and who knows what was to happen later with it he still said he would rather have a CAN-AM because of the style and comfort. Everyone that was a witness to mine breaking thought CAN-AM should make corrections to what is used or placing a guard to prevent blown belt from damaging any thing else. - Still in the CAN-AM camp just frustrated with how much i have'nt had my machine.
socalmav - Dealer again was explaining why cover was destroyed and used the tire blowing up as a illustration of what happened when belt broke. i've got to agree that belt did cause damage like a tire would to the wheel well of a vehicle if it had blown up on the high way as you were driving. The bottom of the case had a 2 inch hole about 10 inches long almost the exact width of the belt and i was going about 40 MPH. :furious:
I suggest you sell your lemon of a Maverick, and go buy a Polaris. I think you would be much happier. I know I would be....
 

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Have you owned a SxS before, or is this your first one? Maybe you're just having a string of bad luck with yours. I know one of the other members on this forum says he's had issues from day one. Yet, others (myself included) ride the piss out of their Mavericks and have minimal issues. The bottom line is, there is no "perfect" UTV out there, they all have some sort of potential hiccup. Before I bought the Maverick, I researched all the different ones as this is my first SxS. I bought the Maverick knowing there was a potential clutch problem, but was willing to take that chance because I've owned BRP product before and know the overall quality. IMO, the Rotax engine alone out weighs the crappy tie rods, or plastic belt cover, or clutch bolt recall....

My suggestion is:
1) Go the the poo-poo forum and see what kind of problems they are having, (up to 47 pages now).
2) Use this forum to research. Then it's up to you to upgrade, modify, and/or reinforce stuff... Or leave it stock as is.
3) Good luck....and BTW: no need to double post the same topic.
Hey socalmav,
thanks for the feed back, yes my first off road machine owned but ride a ATV many times and almost went for the renegade!!! Double posting was due to screen locking me out and i thought it did not post - sorry for the inconvenience. I too did SOME research and went off my friends and family's suggestions, research was limited because they are so new. Either case I really liked the Maverick and as i stated before, I even got to go on a test ride. As i also stated the POOPOO dealer here i was NOT impressed with and the KITTY was not a option so here i am. Yes i do also come to the same thought of mabey it's just a bad stroke of luck and with some modifications i might be the happest guy on the trail later and a big supporter of all CAN-AM products and functions!!!!!! Rotax is great so far i guess i should say but i know the value there plus the performance. thanks again
 

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So belt life ranges and of course depending on driver and conditions 2500 to 5000 miles +. Given your belt lasts as long as these numbers state you'll be far outside of your factory warrenty and might end up paying for a clutch cover out of pocket. A new 1000 RZR has a metal housing for it's clutch and belt area, and CAN-AM has stopped putting plastic covers on their snowmobiles but on all Commanders and Mavericks they are PLASTIC. As one specialist stated " it's like a car tire when it blows, it destroys all that is in that wheel well area " refering to when a belt go's or brakes. So why would anyone put plastic around a area that will fail one day that has a high chance of being useless after belt fails and responce time is next to nothing - you will not be able to prevent this from happening. This i understand was a big problem for all sports mobiles and the maverick is designed with plastic and no protection from when belt brakes.

interested in any comments Sorry folks here has very little to do with driver. Having said that belt broke on flat road no mud, and was doing over 30 miles per hour in high gear.
You stated that can am quit putting plastic covers on their cvt covers for snowmobiles, and you stated rzr's used metal.
 

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I stopped by the dealer today to get some parts for my sons dirt bike and they had an XP1K there and I looked at the CVT cover and it is plastic......
 

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I made it 1450 miles when the belt came apart on my Maverick. I was lucky that we had came out of the woods and was on a gravel road. I had read on here what tools to carry to make the job easier and I had a spare belt so I figured I was good to go. Well, I had decided to install a secondary battery under the seat since I had a stereo, 40" light bar, winch, two way radio and a couple other goodies. This made the job a lot harder as that section of plastice had to be held up while I worked on removing the belt cover. I saw that I was going to have to remove the skid plate to be able to get to the bottom bolts. Thank God I had a chain saw to cut a section of tree to use as a prop. Then about 6 of us tipped the Maverick on the passanger wheels, propped it up with the tree so I could remove the skid plate, then remove the bottom CVT cover bolts. If I had been alone this job would not have gone near as fast as it did. I had new Richochete skid plates waiting at home to be installed so I didn't worry about putting the factory pieces back on. We were headed home anyway so I didn't put all the cover bolts back in. It took me around an hour to get back on the road. I think the Rotax motor is a lot better than the Poo Poo but there is no comparison to changing a belt on the Poo Poo. It can be done in about 15 minutes and you don't have to lay on the ground to do it. I wish Can Am would move their motor back or do something to make it easier to change belts.
 

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I made it 1450 miles when the belt came apart on my Maverick. I was lucky that we had came out of the woods and was on a gravel road. I had read on here what tools to carry to make the job easier and I had a spare belt so I figured I was good to go. Well, I had decided to install a secondary battery under the seat since I had a stereo, 40" light bar, winch, two way radio and a couple other goodies. This made the job a lot harder as that section of plastice had to be held up while I worked on removing the belt cover. I saw that I was going to have to remove the skid plate to be able to get to the bottom bolts. Thank God I had a chain saw to cut a section of tree to use as a prop. Then about 6 of us tipped the Maverick on the passanger wheels, propped it up with the tree so I could remove the skid plate, then remove the bottom CVT cover bolts. If I had been alone this job would not have gone near as fast as it did. I had new Richochete skid plates waiting at home to be installed so I didn't worry about putting the factory pieces back on. We were headed home anyway so I didn't put all the cover bolts back in. It took me around an hour to get back on the road. I think the Rotax motor is a lot better than the Poo Poo but there is no comparison to changing a belt on the Poo Poo. It can be done in about 15 minutes and you don't have to lay on the ground to do it. I wish Can Am would move their motor back or do something to make it easier to change belts.
Hey thanks for the input, I just got my maverick back and put a gates belt on and will use brp factory belt ( 2nd belt ) as my back up. I agree on the trail is harder to do any wrenching on your ride but I would rather than abandoning it or having to tow it in. Still in limbo about if manufacturer will honor warranty with my break but will keep posting progress as it is achieved . Pictures to come
 
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