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Key words here. The demand exceeded the supply. The companies listed were forced to go buy elsewhere. And what better place to go than the distributor. Bottom lineare all companies that USED to buy from me
Key words here. The demand exceeded the supply. The companies listed were forced to go buy elsewhere. And what better place to go than the distributor. Bottom line
Possibly, but I know for a fact that two of the listed companies sat on a 4-5 week wait on numerous times when they have 20+ customers waiting on them. Yes any "shmo" can order one from Adam. But you aren't ordering in large quantities to either fill customers orders or refill stock. Business 101.Hmmm, Demand exceeded supply but yet any shmo like me can come on here and PM Adam out of the blue and have a custom made clutch setup in their hands within a week or two MAX. I know we live in a now era but anyone with anyone with any sense at all can understand that truly custom made does not happen instantly.
I have a feeling these companies may have at least partially been more interested in increasing their profit margins than experiencing a lack of supply to meet demand.....
Truly custom made products do not sit in stock, that is what makes them "Custom". I bet I could teach you a few things about business palPossibly, but I know for a fact that two of the listed companies sat on a 4-5 week wait on numerous times when they have 20+ customers waiting on them. Yes any "shmo" can order one from Adam. But you aren't ordering in large quantities to either fill customers orders or refill stock. Business 101.
Truly custom made products do not sit in stock, that is what makes them "Custom". I bet I could teach you a few things about business pal
Sorry but I am not feeling it.. We are not talking about life or death matters here. Different people have different priorities and timelines I guess. If you can't handle waiting don't buy something you have to wait for. If you read my original post you will see I wrote that I felt up to two weeks would be the acceptable wait time for something like this. What do you feel is acceptable? I have been waiting for my Mav for 6 months, but I did't go buy an XP. Adam wants to handle every single aspect of his business himself, who is anyone to tell him how to run his business?Let me know if you ever get into drag racing. I have a few shops I can put you in touch with. Great custom work but no telling when you are gonna get it done or if they are gonna answer their phone.
In all seriousness this and the car customizing business are two industries that can get away with highway robbery and some of the worst customer service then turn around and be praised for delivering something that should have never in a million years taken as long. For the record I am not pointing fingers but its post like the one above that seem to make it ok for a shop to have poor business ethics. If the guy is that busy for that long do you think he might have by now have hired someone to help? Just a simple question. I can understand an occasional back order due to him not producing the raw material but this seems to be a daily occurrence and in Adam's defense it is not only him at fault here. In our line of work things like this will not be tolerated and while its on a much much bigger scale the principle remains the same. Sorry for the rant but just a few things I have put in the back of my mind from my drag racing days and now here. Seems to be all one in the same. It's ashame really....
Nope not telling him how to run his business. Never my intention. I will however never do business with him because of this. I spent a lot of money on my previous project and went though this same type of service. Not an acceptable business practice in my eyes there fore I will choose not to use him. That's my choice. Also you say "tuned personally". Once again I've been in the performance stuff for a long time (mainly drag racing) but unless Adam or anyone for that matter puts their hands on that machine and makes changes accordingly then the tune or clutch is "canned". Nothing custom about it. You can make assumptions but that's all it is. Now when we start talking timing and A/F ratios you can do email data logs but once again. It's not the same. There are to many variables(fuel,DA,BP ect.......) You mentioned QSC. Your right they do have a great product and I personally have had great luck with them. Very easily tunable and was, as you would agree I assume, to be leaps and bounds over stock. I chose this route because of the tunability, reliability, customer service and availability. If I thought air dam was that much better and easier to reach I may have went that route. I guess in the end we can agree to disagree. I'm sure you work hard for your money as the rest of us and choose to spend it where you want. Good luck with the maverick!!Sorry but I am not feeling it.. We are not talking about life or death matters here. Different people have different priorities and timelines I guess. If you can't handle waiting don't buy something you have to wait for. If you read my original post you will see I wrote that I felt up to two weeks would be the acceptable wait time for something like this. What do you feel is acceptable? I have been waiting for my Mav for 6 months, but I did't go buy an XP. Adam wants to handle every single aspect of his business himself, who is anyone to tell him how to run his business?
I will wait and get a clutch that I know he has worked on and tuned personally. You can buy from someone else thats fast, cheap and answers the phone and get what you get, it might not be tuned correctly but a least it you will have someone to talk to while you try and trouble shoot it over the phone later. People can vote with their wallets.
For those who do want quality work and are willing to wait a day or two for it I can also recommend QSC. Very happy with the last setup I got from them. Unfortunatly they do not have a Mav setup yet as they are in Wisconsin and are having trouble getting their hands on one just like us poor saps up in Canada..
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I tried to check my A/F ratio's and send email data logs but then I realized I don't have a Maverick LMAO! I have to disagree on the "nothing custom about it". I am buying for a stock maverick, I do not yet have a Maverick but when I do I want to have a clutch sitting here waiting along with my 34" terminator tires. Adam has had and tested a stock Maverick with big mud tires. He is going to machine it and optimize the setup of the primary and STM secondary to properly turn my tires/maximize power to the ground and it going to give me two setups, one with high stall for pit racing, and one with low stall for general trail/mud riding. I may have to tweak it a bit for my machine, and adjust as I add other mods but it is going to be damn close (at least it better be). Does that not qualify as custom? It will not get any closer to being custom for me as I will not be making the 2 day drive to haul my Mav to him. Are you saying I would get the same results if I ordered a Trail Bloc from Quebec and an STM secondary from Supreme Tool and bolted it on? Are you saying he is going to give me the same canned setup as a guy running the dunes with 26" tires or that the clutch I get from him will be the same as he sells to an 800 Outlander owner? Perhaps it is not a custom tune in your eye's but it is very likely a lot better than anything else ready to go at the moment.Nope not telling him how to run his business. Never my intention. I will however never do business with him because of this. I spent a lot of money on my previous project and went though this same type of service. Not an acceptable business practice in my eyes there fore I will choose not to use him. That's my choice. Also you say "tuned personally". Once again I've been in the performance stuff for a long time (mainly drag racing) but unless Adam or anyone for that matter puts their hands on that machine and makes changes accordingly then the tune or clutch is "canned". Nothing custom about it. You can make assumptions but that's all it is. Now when we start talking timing and A/F ratios you can do email data logs but once again. It's not the same. There are to many variables(fuel,DA,BP ect.......) You mentioned QSC. Your right they do have a great product and I personally have had great luck with them. Very easily tunable and was, as you would agree I assume, to be leaps and bounds over stock. I chose this route because of the tunability, reliability, customer service and availability. If I thought air dam was that much better and easier to reach I may have went that route. I guess in the end we can agree to disagree. I'm sure you work hard for your money as the rest of us and choose to spend it where you want. Good luck with the maverick!!
I was once a full blown consumer, but now I'm on both sides. So I have a pretty good understanding of how everything works. When I was racing CV Tech had just started making it's way out into the ATV scene. Adam @ QSC actually messed around with them before he starting building the QSC clutches. True story. I could sit here and write up a 6 page paper on why a roller clutch is more efficient than a non roller style. When it comes to tuning and setting them up it's like watching an old tube TV versus watching a 3D TV. Night and day. Will the CV Tech work for your every day rider? Sure. My customers have just had BETTER luck with QSC's. I've had my hands on the trailboc, I've replaced them, sent them off, tested them, etc etc. It is what it is. At the end of the day you'll decide where to go.I can attest to what Adam said about Catvos selling that CV Tech for a 1000 to a customer with an 800 XMR because that happened to be my buddy. He sent his to adam the same time i ordered mine and within a week we both had our clutches back. Sadly Catvos told my buddy that the clutch they sold him was an Airdam Clutch.Once installed, it gave him nothing but trouble. He contacted adam and got it fixed and now is extremely happy with the performance. Point is this, if u dont want to wait then take ur business elsewhere. If u dont mind waiting then get ur clutch directly from the man that builds it for u. I've seen more Adam bashing NOT by people who got there clutches directly from him but by either people who vend for other brands or people who got their clutches from a place claiming they were selling airdam. And to be honest its mostly the other vendors doing the bashing. I'll say this to all of you vendors, i choose my business by quality and personality. Adam turns out a quality product and is an extremely nice and helpful guy. We as consumers are reading all the shit u post on these forums and on facebook. And when u claim his clutches are crap or "not as good", we KNOW ur full of shit because we also know what we have seen on OUR machines and our buddies machines. What happens to a clutch with a 50 shot of nitrous is NOT a concern for 90% of us nor is that nitrous drag junkie buying the majority of ur clutches. Be careful the lies that u because we are not as stupid as u may think.
I tried to check my A/F ratio's and send email data logs but then I realized I don't have a Maverick LMAO! I have to disagree on the "nothing custom about it". I am buying for a stock maverick, I do not yet have a Maverick but when I do I want to have a clutch sitting here waiting along with my 34" terminator tires. Adam has had and tested a stock Maverick with big mud tires. He is going to machine it and optimize the setup of the primary and STM secondary to properly turn my tires/maximize power to the ground and it going to give me two setups, one with high stall for pit racing, and one with low stall for general trail/mud riding. I may have to tweak it a bit for my machine, and adjust as I add other mods but it is going to be damn close (at least it better be). Does that not qualify as custom? It will not get any closer to being custom for me as I will not be making the 2 day drive to haul my Mav to him. Are you saying I would get the same results if I ordered a Trail Bloc from Quebec and an STM secondary from Supreme Tool and bolted it on? Are you saying he is going to give me the same canned setup as a guy running the dunes with 26" tires or that the clutch I get from him will be the same as he sells to an 800 Outlander owner? Perhaps it is not a custom tune in your eye's but it is very likely a lot better than anything else ready to go at the moment.