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    I have both the Honda eu3000i and the Honda Handi i3000 generators. Both have issues running 15000 BTU RV air Conditioners on hot days. My friends eu3000i have the same issues. They sometimes run the 13500 AC except in extreme heat. Hope your runs better.

    Friends with the HF Predator 3500 don't have issues in the extreme heat running their 15.000 BTU RV AC.
    They went on sale so I bought one. About $100 bucks off.
    Almost 50 lbs lighter than the big Honda and in the recent 103F heat ran the RV 15000 AC with ease. Just pick up a little load and hummed at 50% capacity.

    I regularly buy HF stuff but have never had any confidence in their stuff. It was usually I need the tool or item today and if it grenades after one use,, well, it was cheap, I got the project done.

    So far I'm impressed. Cheap and friends say if it pukes HF offers a no hassle exchange they say is real.
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    Have you installed hard start kits on the AC's?

    If not I highly recommend it.

    For 10 dollars and ten minutes it does help with initial start up of the compressor.

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    I ordered the big wheel kit.
    First oil change went easy. Some glitter in the oil I was told to be expected.
    So far, nice unit.
    1/3 the cost of the Honda and handles electrical loads in the heat good and with the exchange policy can't get hurt.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tmesic View Post
    Have you installed hard start kits on the AC's?

    If not I highly recommend it.

    For 10 dollars and ten minutes it does help with initial start up of the compressor.

    Tim
    Don't need it. Everything starts fine, the Hondas died in the heat after some running time.
    We tried everything. Turning off the Batt chargers, put the refer on gas, generator in the shade.

    Hondas in our dune group didn't seem to like sustained loads in the heat. The Cheapo HF's in the group seem to be fine with it. Even sitting in the back of guys trucks in the heat of the sun.
    Damfino,, I still don't trust HF stuff.

    I'm a die hard Honda fan but so far impressed with the HF.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dive Bar Casanova View Post

    I ordered the big wheel kit.
    First oil change went easy. Some glitter in the oil I was told to be expected.
    So far, nice unit.
    1/3 the cost of the Honda and handles electrical loads in the heat good and with the exchange policy can't get hurt.
    That is too cool!
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    There's a series of Honda engines with recalls for the exact same reason. I have 2 units with 27 hp Honda motors, both would shut down in 95° + day after 30 + minutes.

    Apparently the fuel pump / lines crossed over to too of the motor (near the air filter). Heat caused vapor lock. Recall parts replaces the pump & fuel lines, no further problems.

    Maybe a totally different engine on the generators than we use to drive high pressure pumps, just my 2 pennies worth...

    But why not HF for 1/3rd the cost, even if they only last 1 season or 2.

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    Like Skinner, all my stuff runs hard and in extreme conditions.
    If it holds up to my use for several years it'll gain my confidence.
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    The Honda Handi I3000 is rated less the the EU3000. I only have two 13,500's on my trailer and I have two EU3000's I run in parallel if I need to run both AC units. I can see were the 15,000 would be hard on them, mine don't have any trouble with the 13,500's though as long as other things are turned off to start one with one generator. Good find on the HF Predator hope they turn out decent, I had a Kipor 3000 that was enclosed like the Honda it was quiet, probably the same output as the Handi Honda but the pos would go through regulators and at $500 a pop for them that got old. Bought one regulator then a year later it smoked another then in the scrap steel bin it went. Hopefully the Predator will be better especially if they will take them back but it's still a pain in ass when they shit in the middle of your trip.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AZSteele View Post
    There's a series of Honda engines with recalls for the exact same reason. I have 2 units with 27 hp Honda motors, both would shut down in 95° + day after 30 + minutes.

    Apparently the fuel pump / lines crossed over to too of the motor (near the air filter). Heat caused vapor lock. Recall parts replaces the pump & fuel lines, no further problems.

    Maybe a totally different engine on the generators than we use to drive high pressure pumps, just my 2 pennies worth...

    But why not HF for 1/3rd the cost, even if they only last 1 season or 2.

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    That glitter in the oil,, that's the red flag this may not last that long. Pistons cast from melted Yan Jing beer cans. But they were recycled!
    Like early 2 stroke engines, ya break these in real easy.
    But HF with the exchange warranty everyone says is no hassle,, this is going to be interesting.
    I start my generators and they run a week maybe 10 days straight. Oil changes at 100 hours.
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    103F outside ran one 15000AC all day at half rated running load, engine just picked up speed a little and quietly hummed the entire time.
    Our Honda eu3000 would eventually have a tantrum and quit, the Handi just hated it to begin with.
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